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OEM BMW Style 405Ms in 18x8 flavour with Goodyear Assym6 F1 tyres (235/45/18 all round) cleaned, Gtechniq C5 treated and fitted today







Just took the car out for a quick spin to make sure the balancing is as it should be and scrub the tyres in a bit; the car drives smoother, quieter and takes the rougher roads much better than the 18" winter RFTs...

Think they look spot on also :D
 
Apologies as this has probably been discussed over the 50 odd pages of this thread already, but a question regarding ceramic coating and also PPF. I’m aware PH will have pages on the topic, but I know you lot rather better than the contributors there - and I trust that there’s a lot of intelligent, well informed opinion here too.

I’m getting my last ever (I strongly suspect!) new car in a couple of months, and I’m considering the value of these treatments. I wouldn’t be able to justify a full PPF, but maybe worth doing the front of the car? I’m pretty sold on ceramic coating, having had it done to my Cayman a few years back.

Anything not obvious I ought to know?
 
Whaleblue said:
Apologies as this has probably been discussed over the 50 odd pages of this thread already, but a question regarding ceramic coating and also PPF. I’m aware PH will have pages on the topic, but I know you lot rather better than the contributors there - and I trust that there’s a lot of intelligent, well informed opinion here too.

I’m getting my last ever (I strongly suspect!) new car in a couple of months, and I’m considering the value of these treatments. I wouldn’t be able to justify a full PPF, but maybe worth doing the front of the car? I’m pretty sold on ceramic coating, having had it done to my Cayman a few years back.

Anything not obvious I ought to know?
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Nope; speak to a decent detailer and local wrap specialist and they'll advise you to PPF the front end and and ceramic coat the rest...

It should be spot on then
 
Whaleblue said:
Apologies as this has probably been discussed over the 50 odd pages of this thread already, but a question regarding ceramic coating and also PPF. I’m aware PH will have pages on the topic, but I know you lot rather better than the contributors there - and I trust that there’s a lot of intelligent, well informed opinion here too.

I’m getting my last ever (I strongly suspect!) new car in a couple of months, and I’m considering the value of these treatments. I wouldn’t be able to justify a full PPF, but maybe worth doing the front of the car? I’m pretty sold on ceramic coating, having had it done to my Cayman a few years back.

Anything not obvious I ought to know?
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Ceramics are great but do have their own drawbacks - if you get scratches, the whole panel needs the ceramic removed to machine polish the scratches, and then paint correct and then have it reapplied. If you have your own indoor garage, then its ok to manage it yourself, if you don't then it can become costly. You also need to have yearly top up treatments done by the valetor to keep your warranty with it, on top of the big original cost. Contrary to popular internet belief, ceramics don't protect your car from poor cleaning processes and scratches, but do reduce cleaning time and the results at the end for the effort put in.

I would advise if your car is heavily used and see's lots of car parks without regular careful cleaning etc I would probably opt for a decontamination/machine polish/sealant based valet every four to six months instead of a ceramic.

I normally use Gtechniq CSU Ceramic , which is a 9 year coating, however the next car may have the CSL instead, its cheaper to apply as I may not keep the car longer than 5 years which is its lifespan.

I have a new car coming in a month or so and I intend to ceramic the car with CSL and PPF the front bumper and bonnet. PPF can sometimes yellow over time, and if you get a deep scratch you'll have to replace it as it will begin to break down but overall if the cost is worth it to you, then its a good call. I didn't do it on my last car and regret it as the stone chips ruined the front bumper quite quickly as it was so low to the ground. Obvs the quality of the application and how long it lasts is also down to the installer and product used.
 
Thanks both. It’d be done by Könings

https://www.konings.co.uk/

Who seem to get good reviews. Products they use are Nasiol Nano Ceramic, and PPF is XPEL Ultimate+. I’ll see if I can budget for what they describe as “Full Front” coverage.

P.S. it’s going to be used for high days and holidays, and my monthly run to the office. Probably 3000 miles a year.
 
Whaleblue said:
Apologies as this has probably been discussed over the 50 odd pages of this thread already, but a question regarding ceramic coating and also PPF. I’m aware PH will have pages on the topic, but I know you lot rather better than the contributors there - and I trust that there’s a lot of intelligent, well informed opinion here too.

I’m getting my last ever (I strongly suspect!) new car in a couple of months, and I’m considering the value of these treatments. I wouldn’t be able to justify a full PPF, but maybe worth doing the front of the car? I’m pretty sold on ceramic coating, having had it done to my Cayman a few years back.

Anything not obvious I ought to know?
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I am not quite ready for ordering this but want it on a new purchase later this year. Thanks for asking the same question I would have asked and thanks to flutter and hifi for the responses. I keep hearing full PPF AND ceramic coating which can be spendy.
 
Full interior detail this morning; it's all about my broken body can take currently!

Carpets thoroughly hoovered, plastics and seat based/sides treated with APC solution and a detailing brush; all wiped down again and then carpets Autoglym Interior Shampoo'd and na stiff bristle brush attachment on for the cordless drill did the hard work.

All wiped down again, re-hoovered and then mats hoovered and brushed, makes my OCD very happy :D

All leather wiped down and treated with Megs Leather Conditioner; interior hard surfaces wiped down with AGs Vinyl & Rubber care as it dries matte and doesn't leave any residue ;)



















 
Just adding my penny's worth I love nothing more than a clean shiny car that looks new no matter what the reg plate is, I don't care for the newer reg plate condition is everything. I use and love garage therapy products and think they are very hard to beat at any price..
My pet hate is black alloys they always look like cheap man's way of covering up the fact they can't park properly.
 
Martin hifi said:
Just adding my penny's worth I love nothing more than a clean shiny car that looks new no matter what the reg plate is, I don't care for the newer reg plate condition is everything. I use and love garage therapy products and think they are very hard to beat at any price..
My pet hate is black alloys they always look like cheap man's way of covering up the fact they can't park properly.
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I never went for black alloys; always silver or lately ferric grey. I binned the gloss black 403Ms as soon as I got the car; cannot stand gloss black wheels and they're a sod to keep clean!

But the Style 405Ms I've fitted on my F31 are lovely; finished in satin black powder coat (OEM BMW finish as they're original/untouched) and they look superb IMO

Black wheels are still silver underneath when they're curbed ;)

There is a though process that I may get them refurbed in BMW Ferric Grey II which is a lighter tone of Ferric Grey; but that can wait until later in the year when I get to the time to fit the winters etc
 
hifilover1979 said:
I never went for black alloys; always silver or lately ferric grey. I binned the gloss black 403Ms as soon as I got the car; cannot stand gloss black wheels and they're a sod to keep clean!

But the Style 405Ms I've fitted on my F31 are lovely; finished in satin black powder coat (OEM BMW finish as they're original/untouched) and they look superb IMO

Black wheels are still silver underneath when they're curbed ;)

There is a though process that I may get them refurbed in BMW Ferric Grey II which is a lighter tone of Ferric Grey; but that can wait until later in the year when I get to the time to fit the winters etc
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Just to add I was not attacking anyones car, just adding what I have always though. My car is not kerb free I might add, my wife can't park for shit and does not care to learn she thinks a large parking space is to be driven strait into and treats every rd as if it is narrow. I have come close a few times to buying a car I liked but walked away from it because of black alloys. I love gun metal alloys they always look smart. Then again I drive a bright green metallic car that many hate it is marmite I have to say, but I'll never lose it in a car park.
sorry for the poor cut out was done on an iPhone didn't want my children for all to see.

 
Martin hifi said:
Just to add I was not attacking anyones car, just adding what I have always though. My car is not kerb free I might add, my wife can't park for shit and does not care to learn she thinks a large parking space is to be driven strait into and treats every rd as if it is narrow. I have come close a few times to buying a car I liked but walked away from it because of black alloys. I love gun metal alloys they always look smart. Then again I drive a bright green metallic car that many hate it is marmite I have to say, but I'll never lose it in a car park.
sorry for the poor cut out was done on an iPhone didn't want my children for all to see.

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that's a, erm, *courageous* colour choice. I like it. I'd not be deterred by black wheels though, paint is cheap.
 
Martin hifi said:
Just to add I was not attacking anyones car, just adding what I have always though. My car is not kerb free I might add, my wife can't park for shit and does not care to learn she thinks a large parking space is to be driven strait into and treats every rd as if it is narrow. I have come close a few times to buying a car I liked but walked away from it because of black alloys. I love gun metal alloys they always look smart. Then again I drive a bright green metallic car that many hate it is marmite I have to say, but I'll never lose it in a car park.
sorry for the poor cut out was done on an iPhone didn't want my children for all to see.

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No; absolutely get where you're coming from... Never been that keen on black wheels unless it's a track car etc

My previous E39 touring had 3 sets of different silver wheels until I settled on the OEM 17s and had them refurbed in Ferric Grey; always been a fan of contrastic colours on cars and wheels (dark car > light alloys / light car < dark alloys)



Had silver LMs on the touring too and they worked well



Think it's all down to the colour of the car/style of the car and the wheels etc...

I do mot like murdered out cars (black on black etc); cannot stand the look
 
stevec67 said:
that's a, erm, *courageous* colour choice. I like it. I'd not be deterred by black wheels though, paint is cheap.
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As the post before yours was of a Boxster. I have an extra, unused set of black wheels for my Boxster that resides in the garden shed. Not because they are black, but they are bigger and wider and more expensive to put new rubber on, plus much noisier :( Now, they are original Porsche ones, not sold new in black. According to the guy I bought them from, they sat on a car originally sold in Italy. The first owner, after three weeks or so, decided he wanted the car to be semi gloss black. Everything was resprayed, including the wheels!!!

Like the green, btw. 98% of all new cars seem to be in some kind of gray, from very light gray (white) to very dark gray (black). Boring!
 
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