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I’m out of Sky F1
There's another option - F1TV.
I’m out of Sky F1
There's another option - F1TV.
I’m out of Sky F1 and any real interest in F1 from next month anyway. I’ll probably keep the Sky Q thing going for a while, depending on how much they want to rook me off for.
I avoided watching the Qatar race intentionally, and I really didn’t miss it at all. It’s just too artificial for me.
Note the absence of a safety car:
Nobody died. They were grown ups who knew how to avoid driving into a stationary object.
Aston Martin are working on a Le Mans programme (possibly including Stroll Jnr.) - maybe it will make sense to sell the F1 team to one of the aspiring entrants?
I’m being honest here: I prefer the footage below to almost any 2023 F1 footage.
Nothing to do with a dominant team whatsoever. It has rapidly turned into something that just isn’t for me, and it’s going to carry on down that avenue as far as it can.And yet here you still are on the F1 thread.
Worse still, MotoGP has a dominant manufacturer . At least WSB is still somewhat competitive.
Nothing to do with a dominant team whatsoever. It has rapidly turned into something that just isn’t for me, and it’s going to carry on down that avenue as far as it can.
As I have explained on here before, the combination of budget cap, wind tunnel time limitation (weaker teams get more time) and the very tight technical regs have resulted in what we have. F1 teams have a lot of money which now goes to the owners and shareholders. They should have included the team owners, senior people's salaries (top 3 are excluded from the cap) and the drivers and said that is your budget cap, spend it how you want. I also think that it is time to start freeing up some of the rules as it is over prescriptive.What changes that will be achievable in the modern reality might reignite your interest Tony?
For the moment, we have to accept that the ridiculous over-hyped glitz and glamour in an attempt to appeal to a wider audience, including the nonsensical Drive to Survive or whatever it’s called are not going to vanish completely. Neither will petty internecine politics.
So are there any changes to the rules or the racing that might make it more appealing?
Personally I don’t like the 1.6 turbo hybrids - noise and power delivery are muted, rev range too short and the hybrid gubbins add unnecessary weight, complexity and frequent reliability problems.
It’s not like there aren’t already plenty of full electric or hybrid vehicles available to the public, with regenerative braking and crumple zones, so I don’t really buy the benefits of F1 research trickling down to ordinary motorists any more. Besides, the budget cap nonsense means any research is limited to stripping fractions of a tenth of a second from F1 lap times.
I have explained why DRS is needed with ground effect a few times before. The current ground effect aero does allow much closer following through a corner. But overtaking is very difficult down a straight as soon as the following car pulls out it has no differential velocity and any slip stream effect is gone. So DRS is used to provide enough differential velocity for an overtake. The FIA technical team did not understand the consequences of the rules that they brought in until one of the teams explained it to them and that is why DRS was brought back (before the cars went racing).I do like the return of partial ground effect aerodynamics, introduced so that it would no longer be impossible to follow another car very closely. But now it is mostly shown to have worked, why do we still have the travesty of DRS, which completely negates hard won advantages by both team and driver? I’d like that gone yesterday.
Yes, the big money in F1 for FOM, the FIA, Liberty and the team owners makes change very difficult. And the owners are catering to a very wide fanbase around the world and trying to increase it. And that of course makes it even more difficult.I‘d like to see smaller, leaner cars with a bit more power over a wider range, and a focus more on driver skill. Technology at the limit should still be a part of it, but I’d like to see the teams have a bit more free rein. I don’t like the artificial constraints such as being forced to use two different tyre compounds.
Im sure this could be easily achieved, but I suspect that the big money circus already means that attention to what the fans really want is very low in the list of considerations.
There are things I’d change, but it isn’t going to happen, not in my lifetime. So, as an occasionally sensible person I’ll do the sensible thing and find other interests.What changes that will be achievable in the modern reality might reignite your interest Tony?
For the moment, we have to accept that the ridiculous over-hyped glitz and glamour in an attempt to appeal to a wider audience, including the nonsensical Drive to Survive or whatever it’s called are not going to vanish completely. Neither will petty internecine politics.
So are there any changes to the rules or the racing that might make it more appealing?
Personally I don’t like the 1.6 turbo hybrids - noise and power delivery are muted, rev range too short and the hybrid gubbins add unnecessary weight, complexity and frequent reliability problems.
It’s not like there aren’t already plenty of full electric or hybrid vehicles available to the public, with regenerative braking and crumple zones, so I don’t really buy the benefits of F1 research trickling down to ordinary motorists any more. Besides, the budget cap nonsense means any research is limited to stripping fractions of a tenth of a second from F1 lap times.
I do like the return of partial ground effect aerodynamics, introduced so that it would no longer be impossible to follow another car very closely. But now it is mostly shown to have worked, why do we still have the travesty of DRS, which completely negates hard won advantages by both team and driver? I’d like that gone yesterday.
I‘d like to see smaller, leaner cars with a bit more power over a wider range, and a focus more on driver skill. Technology at the limit should still be a part of it, but I’d like to see the teams have a bit more free rein. I don’t like the artificial constraints such as being forced to use two different tyre compounds.
Im sure this could be easily achieved, but I suspect that the big money circus already means that attention to what the fans really want is very low in the list of considerations.
Am I alone here in being 98% happy with current Formula 1?
There are things I’d change, but it isn’t going to happen, not in my lifetime. So, as an occasionally sensible person I’ll do the sensible thing and find other interests.
Motorsport has pretty much lost me now anyway. Safety car fest for almost every single bloody race, for almost any incident. Sod paying that much money and travelling so far to watch a parade of boring sounding cars follow a safety car for 1/3rd of the ‘race’.
It doesn’t matter to me now what the reasons for changes are. The resulting situation is something that just doesn’t appeal to me. After spending my 20s in awe of raw turbo F1 cars with hand grenade qualy engines, and incredible GpB rally cars that made my jaw drop, everything now is a pathetic shadow of what I loved.
I guess so!Sad to hear Tony, I have enjoyed your posts and engagements over the years, Does this mean someone else will have to start the 2024 F1 thread?
There are things I’d change, but it isn’t going to happen, not in my lifetime. So, as an occasionally sensible person I’ll do the sensible thing and find other interests.
Motorsport has pretty much lost me now anyway. Safety car fest for almost every single bloody race, for almost any incident. Sod paying that much money and travelling so far to watch a parade of boring sounding cars follow a safety car for 1/3rd of the ‘race’.
It doesn’t matter to me now what the reasons for changes are. The resulting situation is something that just doesn’t appeal to me. After spending my 20s in awe of raw turbo F1 cars with hand grenade qualy engines, and incredible GpB rally cars that made my jaw drop, everything now is a pathetic shadow of what I loved.