Bananahead
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Well done Charles
The 2023 Formula One Season
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Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
Max's continuing appraisal of Vegas and its F1 'fans'…
"Most of them just come to have a party, drink, see a DJ play or a performance act. I can do that all over the world. I can go to Ibiza and get completely shitfaced and have a good time".
"Most of them just come to have a party, drink, see a DJ play or a performance act. I can do that all over the world. I can go to Ibiza and get completely shitfaced and have a good time".
An interesting qualifying despite the track not being interesting.
Williams is no surprise after thinking about it. They are the fastest above 220 kph and so generate most downforce as they are just faster on the straights and therefore keep the tyres hotter and so the lack of downforce is not such a problem in the corners (where they lose but not as much as normal and get it back and more above 220 kph).
Alpine are running a very low drag (and downforce) configuration and are just as fast as Williams. GAS got the tyre prep right in Q1 and so was quick enough in sector 1, whereas OCO wasn't and despite being just as quick in sector 2 and 3, it was not enough.
Some evidence that Alpine are down a bit on power, but difficult to separate it from the consequences of the low speed corner exits.
VER as usual very quick through the low speed, and fastest by the end of the long straight, but is slower than other fast cars in the 230kph to 330 kph zone.
LEC strong everywhere except for the 280 kph to 345 kph zone where they are just average out of the fast cars.
Williams is no surprise after thinking about it. They are the fastest above 220 kph and so generate most downforce as they are just faster on the straights and therefore keep the tyres hotter and so the lack of downforce is not such a problem in the corners (where they lose but not as much as normal and get it back and more above 220 kph).
Alpine are running a very low drag (and downforce) configuration and are just as fast as Williams. GAS got the tyre prep right in Q1 and so was quick enough in sector 1, whereas OCO wasn't and despite being just as quick in sector 2 and 3, it was not enough.
Some evidence that Alpine are down a bit on power, but difficult to separate it from the consequences of the low speed corner exits.
VER as usual very quick through the low speed, and fastest by the end of the long straight, but is slower than other fast cars in the 230kph to 330 kph zone.
LEC strong everywhere except for the 280 kph to 345 kph zone where they are just average out of the fast cars.
tones
Tones deaf
Interesting the different liveries on some of the cars, presumably for this event only. Being an old (and old-fashioned) codger, I liked seeing the prominent quadrifoglio, the historic racing badge of Alfa Romeo, on the drivers' overalls.
No doubt the Americans will be pleased to see their sole representative so high up the grid (although nearly all of them will be asking "Logan WHO?")
No doubt the Americans will be pleased to see their sole representative so high up the grid (although nearly all of them will be asking "Logan WHO?")
Enfield boy
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That would make 2009 even more impressive.
gez
pfm Member
I don't understand why they just didn't use an existing iconic US circuit, such as Laguna Seca or Sebring.
gez
pfm Member
Part of me thinks: Why are we even bothering with the US when it comes to European/Global sports that just aren't popular there? Same deal with Football IMO. They have their sports, that's what they like, they are often different enough from the sports popular in the rest of the world that it's highly unlikely those RoW sports are ever going to be truly succesful there.
Just do a search online for the typical analysis of most US citizens of Football, usually goes along the lines of "too much time with nothing happening" "needs more goals, it's boring" "make the goals bigger, take away the defenders" etc etc. I'm no huge Football geek/fan, but even I would hate to see such changes made.
Formula 1 is in danger of having to make changes to the sport just to try and make it attractive in NA, it's very likely that some/all of those changes are going to be to the detriment of the sport.
Just do a search online for the typical analysis of most US citizens of Football, usually goes along the lines of "too much time with nothing happening" "needs more goals, it's boring" "make the goals bigger, take away the defenders" etc etc. I'm no huge Football geek/fan, but even I would hate to see such changes made.
Formula 1 is in danger of having to make changes to the sport just to try and make it attractive in NA, it's very likely that some/all of those changes are going to be to the detriment of the sport.
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
Southeastern
She called me baby, like an old romantic
Best thing about F1 this weekend
and just started on Disney
and just started on Disney
tuga
Legal Alien
Max Verstappen: The rules have to change
Sitting alongside Sainz in the post-qualifying press conference on Saturday, three-time F1 World Champion Max Verstappen was asked for his opinion on the issue, with the Dutch driver saying the penalty for Sainz was too harsh given him and his team being completely innocent of any sort of wrongdoing.
“The rules have to change for that,” he said.
“It’s the same if you get taken out and you have a big accident.”
Verstappen is likely referring to 2021 with this example when the Red Bull driver suffered catastrophic damage and the loss of a power unit when he collided with Lewis Hamilton on the opening lap of the British Grand Prix
“You can lose parts of the engine, energy store, all these kinds of things. So, first of all, that needs to change. These things can be taken into consideration, that if you can take a free, let’s say, penalty or not and it will not be counted.”
Verstappen’s suggestion is to remove the teams from being able to cast votes or apply pressure to situations like this, in light of the allegations from Sainz that “rival teams” indicated a lack of support for overturning the penalty.
“And besides that, I think the teams should not be allowed to have a say in these kind of things. Because for sure they’re going to vote against that. Personally, I do think it’s very harsh on Carlos, but in this political environment that we are in, of course every team thinks about themselves and they, of course, are going to say no, he has to take the penalty.”
www.planetf1.com
Sitting alongside Sainz in the post-qualifying press conference on Saturday, three-time F1 World Champion Max Verstappen was asked for his opinion on the issue, with the Dutch driver saying the penalty for Sainz was too harsh given him and his team being completely innocent of any sort of wrongdoing.
“The rules have to change for that,” he said.
“It’s the same if you get taken out and you have a big accident.”
Verstappen is likely referring to 2021 with this example when the Red Bull driver suffered catastrophic damage and the loss of a power unit when he collided with Lewis Hamilton on the opening lap of the British Grand Prix
“You can lose parts of the engine, energy store, all these kinds of things. So, first of all, that needs to change. These things can be taken into consideration, that if you can take a free, let’s say, penalty or not and it will not be counted.”
Verstappen’s suggestion is to remove the teams from being able to cast votes or apply pressure to situations like this, in light of the allegations from Sainz that “rival teams” indicated a lack of support for overturning the penalty.
“And besides that, I think the teams should not be allowed to have a say in these kind of things. Because for sure they’re going to vote against that. Personally, I do think it’s very harsh on Carlos, but in this political environment that we are in, of course every team thinks about themselves and they, of course, are going to say no, he has to take the penalty.”
Max Verstappen's F1 rule idea as drivers rally behind Carlos Sainz over grid penalty
Max Verstappen has said the rules need to change regarding blameless drivers being given grid penalties, in support of Carlos Sainz.
www.planetf1.com
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
Drivers say it’s the section after the corkscrew that provides the real challenge.
Bananahead
pfm Member
Well done Max
tuga
Legal Alien
tones
Tones deaf
Not F1, but I found it fascinating:
www.ferrari.com
Most surprising, "air-conditioning for the drivers"! Perhaps this has been standard for endurance cars for a while. I remember that, in one US endurance race where high temperatures were expected, Porsche equipped its cars (908s from memory) with a large block of ice and melt from this block was fed through a networks of tubes in the drivers' overalls.
Ferrari 499P: electronics and reliability
The Ferrari 499P involved in the FIA WEC features electronic solutions that represent the cutting edge of racing technology: more than 300 sensors, wiring and control units make up a multi-function management system controlling everything from the car’s power to its reliability, the latter a key...
www.ferrari.com
Most surprising, "air-conditioning for the drivers"! Perhaps this has been standard for endurance cars for a while. I remember that, in one US endurance race where high temperatures were expected, Porsche equipped its cars (908s from memory) with a large block of ice and melt from this block was fed through a networks of tubes in the drivers' overalls.