Copperjacket
pfm Member
Similarly gears not cogs. Cogs are for Mangles.
The 2023 Formula One Season
- Thread starter Tony Lockhart
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richardg
Admonishtrator
tell hammond that!
when the new word is longer than the old word and the new word is no clearer than the old word, then i think it is stupid. energy store and powerplant are both fine examples of sesquipedanialism. even with the added bit of computer to the batteries, it's still batteries. or a battery system.
Sorry to be a pedant but it is called a powerplant because it’s a hybrid. It consists of a petrol internal combustion engine and electric motors powered by an energy recovery system.
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
But there was a change in F1 terminology used on t'telly and in magazines back in 2014. They now usually refer to the engine as the internal combustion engine.
Yank
Bulbous Also Tapered
...or the "ICE".
cutting42
Arrived at B4 Hacker Ergo
That used to be In Car Entertainment when I were a lad
Yank
Bulbous Also Tapered
Maybe that's something else they could incorporate into the steering wheel?
Bananahead
pfm Member
I still put it in drinks
palindrome
Thru a hedge, backwards and forwards.
I used to put CD's in the fridge, but I don't think that's what you're getting at. . . 
John
John
Yank
Bulbous Also Tapered
Lance can drive pretty well as long as there's no traffic.
gez
pfm Member
harsh.... but true
tones
Tones deaf
I found this very interesting:
However, as an old guy with an interest in the history of the sport, I query the "greatest designer in F1 history" tag. To me, Colin Chapman was the supreme innovator, in that he introduced into F1 more ground-breaking innovations (monocoque chassis, side radiators, ground effect aerodynamics), whereas Newey seems to be to be someone who could refine existing ideas and make them work better than anyone else.
But then, in Chapman's time, there was more scope for radical innovation. Modern F1 and its regulations and ongoing commercialisation have left little room for such radical innovation (it almost seems to have moved more towards Indy cars' old "If you can't beat it, ban it" mantra), so much credit has to be given to Newey for being able to do such outstanding work within such relatively restrictive parameters. So, perhaps doing what he has done within these confines, producing outstanding cars for Williams, McLaren and Red Bull, does indeed make him F1's greatest designer.
Adrian Newey: Inside the mind of record-breaking Red Bull's design genius
Adrian Newey - the greatest designer in Formula 1 history - sits down with BBC Sport's Andrew Benson.
www.bbc.com
However, as an old guy with an interest in the history of the sport, I query the "greatest designer in F1 history" tag. To me, Colin Chapman was the supreme innovator, in that he introduced into F1 more ground-breaking innovations (monocoque chassis, side radiators, ground effect aerodynamics), whereas Newey seems to be to be someone who could refine existing ideas and make them work better than anyone else.
But then, in Chapman's time, there was more scope for radical innovation. Modern F1 and its regulations and ongoing commercialisation have left little room for such radical innovation (it almost seems to have moved more towards Indy cars' old "If you can't beat it, ban it" mantra), so much credit has to be given to Newey for being able to do such outstanding work within such relatively restrictive parameters. So, perhaps doing what he has done within these confines, producing outstanding cars for Williams, McLaren and Red Bull, does indeed make him F1's greatest designer.
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Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
Well that’s a record. I drifted off in under ten laps.
Yes, but unlike 1988 one driver is clearly head, shoulders and everything else above the other. What a season for Verstappen!! Proper domination.
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
Right, that’s me done.
wow&flutter
pfm Member
Now the season is over I have a technical question, a really stupid technical question. We’ve long witnessed the carbon brakes on these cars glow red hot under hard braking with I guess the pads and discs reaching equally high temps.
Hypothetically, if it were possible to jack up an F1 car at the end of a very long straight after maximum braking effort and retardation but with pedal pressure no longer applied could you rotate the wheel, or would the high temperatures without pressure alone offer drag?
Does the disc and pad assembly dissipate heat so quickly so as to be offering no drag the second the brake pressure is removed or do the two surfaces offer drag without pressure until they cool below a certain temp?
Is the composition of the pad and disc different to prevent this, also does all the pad material heat to the point that it transfers heat into the pad backing plate, then calliper and potentially the brake fluid? I’ve certainly never heard of these cars boiling their brake fluid (but overheating their brakes yes!).
I can remember video clips from back in the day where the cabon brake assemblies were “bench tested” and they went through many many cycles showing their ability to dissipate energy through heat, it was quite the sight but don’t remember them showing the disc coming to a stop!
Hypothetically, if it were possible to jack up an F1 car at the end of a very long straight after maximum braking effort and retardation but with pedal pressure no longer applied could you rotate the wheel, or would the high temperatures without pressure alone offer drag?
Does the disc and pad assembly dissipate heat so quickly so as to be offering no drag the second the brake pressure is removed or do the two surfaces offer drag without pressure until they cool below a certain temp?
Is the composition of the pad and disc different to prevent this, also does all the pad material heat to the point that it transfers heat into the pad backing plate, then calliper and potentially the brake fluid? I’ve certainly never heard of these cars boiling their brake fluid (but overheating their brakes yes!).
I can remember video clips from back in the day where the cabon brake assemblies were “bench tested” and they went through many many cycles showing their ability to dissipate energy through heat, it was quite the sight but don’t remember them showing the disc coming to a stop!