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Speaker matching advice for Rega system

Discussion in 'audio' started by kowalski99, Jan 20, 2018.

  1. kowalski99

    kowalski99 pfm Member

    I am just looking for Speaker suggestions to get the most from my 'vintage' Rega system.
    My system comprises clamshell era Rega components:
    Jupiter CD player
    IO DAC
    Radio R
    Hal pre amp
    Exs power amp
    2017 RSD turntable with standard carbon cartridge.
    I was using the Totem Rokk speakers but am instead using ancient Technics SB-X110 speakers as they seem to provide a more weighty sound.
    The equipment is on the original Rega separates rack and the turntable is on the 2017 Rega wall bracket.

    People say the Rega sound can be slightly 'thin'- I think that means lacking slightly in bass? I feel the system could do with a bit more bass and punch. I've listened to Rega RX-5s and Neat Iota Alphas and not really felt it.
    I have a budget around £2500 max and would take bookshelf or floor standers and consider used suggestions.

    Cheers for any advice!
  2. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    I think some will say that you need to match your speakers to the room, not the speakers to the boxes. So difficult to do it the other way AND have them work in your room.
  3. kowalski99

    kowalski99 pfm Member

    OK, yes that makes sense. The room is actually quite small- 10ft wide by 14ft deep- a typical plaster boarded 2nd bedroom in a block of flats.
  4. PerF

    PerF Scandinavian Member

    2500 seem a high budget

    why not look for same era Rega speakers ?
    I believe they were Ela or Xel ?

    Perhaps the later R/RS7 which are transmissionline bas.
    Should come in much cheaper leaving room for servicing the kit if in need ?

    If you really want punch perhaps listen to Yamaha NS1000 or some vintage JBL, perhaps going for the mono version poweramp Exon
  5. peterm

    peterm pfm Member

    Rega ELA is a similar period speaker and is very good (especially the original Mk1 version like the pair on ebay at the moment) and they work well in most rooms even close to walls/corners.
    I preferred them to Naim sbls when I compared them about 25 years ago.
    About £100 gets you a pair.
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  6. djftw

    djftw Heterodox Member

    I have Ela MK2s and Xels, and would heartily recomend either. I have had Ela MK1s and whilst they are very pleasant there is no way I would ever have them over MK2s. The later have a much better (i.e. flatter) frequency response, and if bass is your concern definitely go lower. Not sure the Xels do bass any better, but the midrange is an obvious step up from the MK2 Ela.
  7. Matty297

    Matty297 pfm Member

    Will be watching this with interest as I have a very similar system in storage Clamshell Planet, IO and Mira although I use the IO as a DAC for my laptop.
    It was out and working briefly last week with Snell K MKIs but it’s back in storage now till the toddler grows up a little.
  8. NotOneIota

    NotOneIota pfm Member

    I had a clamshell planet then upgraded to a jupiter/io like yours. Nice sounding kit and I just loved playing cds through the rega top loader.

    I also had rega XELs which I loved even more than the cd player (with naim amps). Eventually had to move them on for reasons of domestic harmony but they would be an ideal match. IMHO the XELs were a better speaker than my current Neat Alpha Iotas (although the Iotas offer more transparency and are much easier on the eye).

    I can also recommend Neat elites which offer more bass, better integrated treble and a more relaxed grown up sound than the iota while being very tuneful. A great all rounder and better than the XELs IMHO. You could buy a used pair of original elites for about £300 - Neat can still replace the drivers if the worst happens.

    Your system shouldn't sound thin with XELs or Elites.
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  9. kowalski99

    kowalski99 pfm Member

    Thank you- some great suggestions. I'm enjoying hunting stuff down- second hand hi-fi equipment is great value but not always easy to demo.
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  10. kowalski99

    kowalski99 pfm Member

    I am trying to source a pair of mono Exon amps but they are super rare and expensive- I think that would make a decent improvement however.

    I also like the idea of some older Rega speakers! Cheers :)
  11. PerF

    PerF Scandinavian Member

    Kowalski, fwiw I once ran a later generation Rega pre/power but trying the most recent Elex/R I found it was a better amp in that setup which consisted of Rega speakers and source.
    No idea if this of your interest as it sort of spoil the clamshell looks.

    As much as I like Rega speakers, you seem to have punch high on priority list, perhaps those little Rega bas units does not provide enough for your likings, hence my other suggestion in #4.

    More power and mono blocks are nice to have but not allways neccesary, but then I'm more a source first guy anyway.
  12. djftw

    djftw Heterodox Member

    Lack of punch would not be a problem in a room of the OPs size, these are proper transmission line designs.
  13. kowalski99

    kowalski99 pfm Member

    I know its heresy but I'm wanting the best of both worlds- looks and performance. Not often possible. I am in the process of negotiating on a Rega p9 (clamshell era PSU of course) with Apheta (in lieu of a summer holiday!) so that will certainly bump up the phono performance!
  14. NotOneIota

    NotOneIota pfm Member

    XELs are transmission line speakers and had punch a plenty with my naim amps but they aren't lookers. Elites were an equally good match with the same amps (though I'd changed to a naim cd2 by then) and much better looking. They have small rear ports and another port down into the plinth so they can go quite close to rear walls too.
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  15. Matty297

    Matty297 pfm Member

    I wouldn’t mind trying some Elas some time in my set up! But they always seem to be collection only and 150 miles away :(
  16. kowalski99

    kowalski99 pfm Member

    Haha, yes judging by some listed on Ebay you are spot on!
  17. peterm

    peterm pfm Member

    I got a pair just over a year ago from an ebay seller about 10 miles away - and he delivered them to my door!
    I paid £50!!
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  18. Matty297

    Matty297 pfm Member

    I’m on the lookout but really want the Mk1.5s.
    There’s a set listed at the moment but in Buckinghamshire:(
  19. Hoopsontoast

    Hoopsontoast pfm Member

    Some Rega R9s, if you can find some! :D Worked very well with my Cursa/Maia combo previously.
    They are flexible too with bass attenuation if needed built into the crossover and quite easy to tune the bass by adding more/taking out stuffing from the transmission line.
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  20. tenpercenter

    tenpercenter Don't ya rile 'em.....

    To the OP

    Rega ELA’s were just great speaker. I heard them with a an original Mira at Westwood and Mason many years ago and they just sounded right.

    I few years later I heard the same pre/power amp you have driving a pair of Royd Sorcerers - one of the most musically communicative combinations I have ever heard!

    IMHE, the older Rega amps are excellent and well worth holding on to. Find a pair of Royd Sorcerers, place them on good tall stands, 6 inches from the wall. Enjoy.
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