gingermrkettle
Deep vein trombonist
Can we all take a second to look at the generation and consumption stats by time of day before anyone else tries this (regularly refuted) argument?
Should I buy an EV - real world advice needed.
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Richard Lines
pfm Member
Good evening all,
Starting Year 7 of EV ownership:-
Regards
Richard
Starting Year 7 of EV ownership:-
Regards
Richard
canonman
pfm Member
I had one as a courtesy car a few months ago. Really nice to drive and I didn't notice any build or brake issues.....but.....I wouldn't dream of buying one. Apart from the fact that I dislike all SUV's, it had a dreadful range that I couldn't live with but I do know there's a new model coming. Very happy to have bought a dinosaur petrol model with 550 + mile range.
canonman
pfm Member
Vectras were introduced well over 20 years ago. Insignia was way better.
PhilofCas
pfm Member
I think they’ve got the shape/styling on those EV Megane’s spot on.Good evening all,
Starting Year 7 of EV ownership:-
Regards
Richard
NeilR
pfm Member
wrong
mattjevans
Well-Known Member
Compelling argument, I’m convinced.
gingermrkettle
Deep vein trombonist
So tell us why you are right and the National Grid is wrong.
mattjevans
Well-Known Member
Consumption estimates can be found here.
Household numbers are likely to be the best estimate as personal transport will only displace very marginal commercial demand. The peak is essentially a model of supply as there is no surplus generation in the UK - indeed the bigger issue is location of appropriate supply be grid bottlenecks - and at a base load level remaining coal will come off faster than nuclear comes on. Solar and wind add more complexity due to inherent volatility and lack of current storage technologies.
You need to add approximately 12kwh per day to these household numbers to model a full residential fleet swap. Draw your own conclusions after that calculation
https://www.researchgate.net/figure...y-for-weekdays-and-weekends-in_fig9_324141791
mattjevans
Well-Known Member
I suggest you look really really carefully at the exact words used by National Grid on the website that discusses this issue.
Can I also suggest that National Grid telling you there will be enough power could well be about as reliable as Thames Water telling you a decade ago that everything was fine with water treatment.
The National Grid wasn't handed down to Moses to be preserved forever. It's a dynamic system that is constantly changing, and has adapted over the decades to meet demands for electricity.
When datacentres were invented, the grid didn't collapse, despite each one using as much electricity as 100,000 homes. Isn't it funny how it's only things that challenge the oil lobby that are such a risk to the grid...
When datacentres were invented, the grid didn't collapse, despite each one using as much electricity as 100,000 homes. Isn't it funny how it's only things that challenge the oil lobby that are such a risk to the grid...
Giving an EV some thought since new employer has a pre tax lease scheme.
Looked at Mercedes EQA and EQB. Test drove the EQA and it was nice to drive and comfortable up front. Main issue is that the rear seat feels like it is only a few inches from the floor, so it would be very uncomfortable for my son on any long drive (knees to chin position). The rear seat comfort in the larger EQB wasn’t any better. It seems the issue is caused by the placement of the battery under the rear seats, which raises the floor compared to the petrol models.
Can anyone recommend a mid size electric SUV with acceptable rear seat comfort?
Another concern is that many EV’s come with very low profile summer tyres that are better suited to the spanish climate than northern scotland. Lease company will only let you swap to all season tyres if you swap back to the original tyres at the end of the lease (therefore requiring storage and the expense of swapping them back). The ultra low profile summer tyres are presumably specified to get better range at the expense of safety and ride comfort. If anyone knows of any electric SUV’s that are factory fitted with all season tyres please let me know.
Looked at Mercedes EQA and EQB. Test drove the EQA and it was nice to drive and comfortable up front. Main issue is that the rear seat feels like it is only a few inches from the floor, so it would be very uncomfortable for my son on any long drive (knees to chin position). The rear seat comfort in the larger EQB wasn’t any better. It seems the issue is caused by the placement of the battery under the rear seats, which raises the floor compared to the petrol models.
Can anyone recommend a mid size electric SUV with acceptable rear seat comfort?
Another concern is that many EV’s come with very low profile summer tyres that are better suited to the spanish climate than northern scotland. Lease company will only let you swap to all season tyres if you swap back to the original tyres at the end of the lease (therefore requiring storage and the expense of swapping them back). The ultra low profile summer tyres are presumably specified to get better range at the expense of safety and ride comfort. If anyone knows of any electric SUV’s that are factory fitted with all season tyres please let me know.
NeilR
pfm Member
the Skoda Enyaq seems to be a popular mid sized SUV that is not too expensive. Maybe worth a look
Simon Dawson
Angry, Ill & Ugly
We have a Kia EV6. Rear seat comfort is good if you are not too tall, the lower roof line does limit head room if you are over 6ft.
It’s a bonkers world. I had no idea the list price for these fast petrol cars had gone up to this level. And at over two tonnes, an EV might not seem so heavy!
It has 'Cabron Vorsprung'! Must be a big factor with regards to the the price level...
MVV
pfm Member
Can’t help thinking that in about 4 years there are going to be some very cheap EVs on the market and specialist garages will have sprung up to fix them. If I can nurse the petrol Golf to 250000 miles I will consider one then.
My 12 your old 1.4 petrol Match must be pretty eco friendly now with 150000 on the clock.
My 12 your old 1.4 petrol Match must be pretty eco friendly now with 150000 on the clock.
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
I generally sit in the front, and I’m 6ft 4, so thanks for the info!
Bananahead
pfm Member
Ten days to go.
gingermrkettle
Deep vein trombonist
On windy nights that is utterly wrong. Add in the ability to direct charging usage as in Octopus Intelligent etc. and you can see why you are asking about a solved problem.
Richard Lines
pfm Member
I'm open minded enough to read whatever the validated source of your assertion was if you'd be so kind as to advise.
It remains a fact that the only organisations pushing for hydrogen are one with direct ties to the FF industry - one can't help wondering if there is a reason for that?
There's an awful lot of greenwashing going on about the proposal for this new hydrogen plant at Kintore.........
I know not everybody will have 16.5kW of Solar PV or 39kWh of batteries but if you do then:-
I've exported 22kWh of electricity more than I've imported over this period. Granted this couldn't happen in the middle of winter but during the summer months carefully managed resources will be sufficient.
On top of this my Solar ET system is also contributing to a reduced energy import.
Additionally, being an early PV adopter, I'm getting 'full whack' FIT payments and this, coupled with the Octopus Outgoing export payments, means I've made £116.08 in the last 10 days.
Home Assistant needs tweaking a bit yet to exercise finer control as I'm limited to an export of 7.4kWh.
Regards
Richard