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I watched Davidson interviewed literally out in the cold, outside Parliament, Krishnan Guru-Muthry pointing out the obvious to her- her own political opportunism. The clock ran down, she went into full Vicky Pollard mode- but this but that. You could sense she knew the moment had passed, the Chancellor of the Exchequer was delivering his budget in Westminster, no one was listening. A real TV tumbleweed moment.
She’s taking a seat in the Lords, alongside Claire Fox, a Russian crook and a couple of bought Labour former MPs, all courtesy of Boris. She’ll be alright, the small clown Douglas Ross will take over from her, conducting a fighting retreat without even having the balls to stand for election under his own name in his own local constituency. A fitting end for them in Scotland. Good riddance.
 
Dogberry said:
Didn't take Mhairi Black long to learn the system.
Over £200k in expenses.
"Ms Black, whose constituency includes Johnstone and Kilbarchan, also defended her expenses.

Her claim includes £179,001 for office and staff expenditure, £14,869 on accommodation and £14,962 on travel and food."
https://www.the-gazette.co.uk/news/...ack-claimed-total-435-000-expenses-last-year/
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Tax Payers Alliance...you do know who they are? Murkily funded right wing think tank, much beloved by the lazy or is it biased BBC for an ostensibly balanced soundbite.

Edit...actually the figures seem fair enough...could you run, equip and staff an office and frequently travel that distance on rail prices for those figures? I mean some people get 100m for supplying useless PPE. By those measures the public purse is getting a stone-cold billy bargain.
 
JimmyB said:
Best thing he can do is torch Scottish Conservative headquarters and claim the insurance....
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ff1d1l said:
Tax Payers Alliance...you do know who they are? Murkily funded right wing think tank, much beloved by the lazy or is it biased BBC for an ostensibly balanced soundbite.

Edit...actually the figures seem fair enough...could you run, equip and staff an office and frequently travel that distance on rail prices for those figures? I mean some people get 100m for supplying useless PPE. By those measures the public purse is getting a stone-cold billy bargain.
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MPs claim expenses within published allowances shocker. The Tax Payers Alliance is an alliance of high net worth people who...err...avoid paying tax. One of them doesn’t pay any U.K. tax. They’re a Tory Party donor shill.
There’s going to be a lot more of this stuff planted for concerned random Goggler to ‘find’.
 
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Tax Payers Alliance has been relentlessly critical of the £10 billion spent on a track and trace system that is not fit for purpose.

Hasn't it?
 
TheDecameron said:
The voters in Scotland aren’t as daft as Johnson takes them for. They see what goes on at his court, they watched Sturgeon’s public handling of Covid vs Johnson’s for a year now. They saw the billions bunged to political backers, Cummings, Patel and others getting a free pass from their leader and they’ll make up their own mind. They knew the Tories were calling for her resignation even before she was allowed to give evidence. If they fail to land a glove in her as seems likely, she will come back from this strengthened going into the May Scottish elections. The moment of Tory opportunism has come and gone- they have no place in Scotland. They’re finished.
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Christ, if you spin any harder you're going to break the furniture.

I can't think what it is that you think is so much better about the SNP's handling of coronavirus than Westminster's, or perhaps you are, as you hint, merely referring to the presentational aspects. The UK overall death rate is around 181 per 100,000, lamentable but still ranking as only the 4th worse in Europe, rather than as we are constantly assured, the worst. The figure for Scotland is 176 per 100,000, hardly something to be shouting about, particularly given the lower population densities and only the two major conurbations.

Do you not think that the SNP has been in power for too long? Authoritarian, secretive and, it seems, corrupted by an ugly melange of power and internecine conflict, they are presiding over a shambolic failure of public policy, with a failing health and welfare system, the wreckage of an education system that was once the pride of the world, (a boast which has been replaced by world-beating hard drugs statistics) and a government which is entirely obsessed with a single issue, whilst presiding over a soaring fiscal deficit which is entirely mitigated by the union from which its sole aspiration is fracture. There is absolutely no plan should the country secede from the long union that might be considered to have been one of the most jointly fruitful in history.

It seems that the only thing which truly unites Scotland in its March towards oblivion is its loathing of the Johnson tories

I suppose that it's fair to concede that my main motivation towards Brexit is a deep contempt for the EU institutions, so I guess there is a degree of commonality. But are there not lessons to be learned in there?

And Johnson's tories, subject as they are to the ballot box, are a temporary fixture. But that the same could be said of the wretched, utterly disastrous and inept, not to mention vindictive and spiteful, European Commission.
 
Voters will decide in about 8 weeks on the relative merits of the Conservative and Unionist Party, in power for a decade and the SNP. Do you need me to draw you a picture? Johnson is merely the icing on the cake but I do take my hat off to him- he’s been beyond our wildest imaginings.
 
The death rate from covid in North Norfolk is less than Scotland and there is not a Team Nicola in sight.
 
Minio said:
The death rate from covid in North Norfolk is less than Scotland and there is not a Team Nicola in sight.
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You've mentioned this before. Undoubtedly interesting and I have no axe to grind with it, but is it what might be referred to as a 'left-field' contribution?
 
Brian said:
I know who he is now, Ken. I said that in my last post, Hugh seems to like him, he keeps posting his picture.

I don’t care why you turned to nationalism and helped the tories to a majority. That’s your business but I hope you enjoy brexit and every other turd fired out by the tories.

The other thing to understand is what you see in UKIP I see existing in all nationalists. There is no nice and fluffy nationalism. You won’t agree, but that’s because you all think your own particular flavour of nationalism is justified.
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If you're not going to even try to look into why the Labour vote in Scotland has evaporated then I can't help you understand the situation here.
However, despite what you say repeatedly about MY not voting Labour here and helping the Tories to a majority can you please explain why at the last General Election my vote for the SNP helped remove Kirsten Hair (Conservative) from her seat in Westminster? If I had voted Labour, I would have joined 2051 other people to keep Labour in FOURTH place in Angus.
What you don't seem to realise is that without the SNP, rural Scotland would return many more Tories to Westminster.
I presume you don't recognise British nationalism as a factor in recent times ie the Gulf Wars and other military interventions, the Iraq War being where the rot set in for Labour in Scotland.

But then, what does a braindead nationalist know...
 
Kipper Infestation Alert! Request tactical response unit to escort them back to the Brexit thread, for indefinite detention.
 
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eternumviti said:
Christ, if you spin any harder you're going to break the furniture.

I can't think what it is that you think is so much better about the SNP's handling of coronavirus than Westminster's, or perhaps you are, as you hint, merely referring to the presentational aspects. The UK overall death rate is around 181 per 100,000, lamentable but still ranking as only the 4th worse in Europe, rather than as we are constantly assured, the worst. The figure for Scotland is 176 per 100,000, hardly something to be shouting about, particularly given the lower population densities and only the two major conurbations.

Do you not think that the SNP has been in power for too long? Authoritarian, secretive and, it seems, corrupted by an ugly melange of power and internecine conflict, they are presiding over a shambolic failure of public policy, with a failing health and welfare system, the wreckage of an education system that was once the pride of the world, (a boast which has been replaced by world-beating hard drugs statistics) and a government which is entirely obsessed with a single issue, whilst presiding over a soaring fiscal deficit which is entirely mitigated by the union from which its sole aspiration is fracture. There is absolutely no plan should the country secede from the long union that might be considered to have been one of the most jointly fruitful in history.

It seems that the only thing which truly unites Scotland in its March towards oblivion is its loathing of the Johnson tories

I suppose that it's fair to concede that my main motivation towards Brexit is a deep contempt for the EU institutions, so I guess there is a degree of commonality. But are there not lessons to be learned in there?

And Johnson's tories, subject as they are to the ballot box, are a temporary fixture. But that the same could be said of the wretched, utterly disastrous and inept, not to mention vindictive and spiteful, European Commission.
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Where are you getting your numbers from? According to the FT tracker, cumulative deaths per 100K are:

England: 193
Scotland: 131
Wales: 170
Northern Ireland: 109

https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart...&per100K=1&startDate=2020-09-01&values=deaths

In Europe, the UK has the highest death toll, in absolute terms, but as far deaths per 100K is concerned, we lag behind Belgium, Czech Republic and (possibly) Slovenia so yes, probably 4th on that criterion. We also nearly top the global league on excess deaths, the measure Boris Johnson said the UK ought to be judged by early in the pandemic (don't hear so much about it now):

https://www.ft.com/content/5f7b58fb-97ad-4fef-bbc9-b71d328c6700

However you measure it, it's a world-beating performance.
 
eternumviti said:
I suppose that it's fair to concede that my main motivation towards Brexit is a deep contempt for the EU institutions, so I guess there is a degree of commonality. But are there not lessons to be learned in there?
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You seem to be suggesting Brexit was a shambles (shooting ourselves in the foot?) based on mis-judged ideals and we should learn from it and not follow the same path? Shurely shome mishtake......
 
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