Seeker_UK
Feelin' nearly faded as my jeans
more curious to see how it turns out.
Do you think you'll be unaffected? I'm sure I will be and thus a little more than "curious".
more curious to see how it turns out.
Do you think you'll be unaffected? I'm sure I will be and thus a little more than "curious".
Do you think you'll be unaffected? I'm sure I will be and thus a little more than "curious".
I thought you wanted Labour to win the election! I know, instead of 'Things Can Only Get Better' Starmer could come out in a school boy costume to 'Highway To Hell.'
The correct strategy is to set out what the future relationships look like both with the EU and the rest of the world. I've seen nothing but a gaping void so far, and time is not on his side. He'll be left with no choice but to support the Tories with caveats (as he's doing now) or to oppose the lot which is just a call for rejection of Brexit again. The trouble with the current 'blame Corbyn' strategy is that it misses the real reason for the election defeat.
At the moment I wouldn't vote to rejoin the EU because we don't yet know whether leaving has been a success or failure and doubt very much we will be to define that by 2024.
I am not someone who thinks the whole world is going to end because we have left the EU, more curious to see how it turns out.
I don't think anyone has said the world is going to end because of Brexit. Most economists (including those working for the Government) have said it will have a negative impact on our economy by between 5 and 10% depending on how the negotiations go, with No Deal being the worst option. Any reduction in the economy will lead to fewer jobs, less tax revenue and more people on Universal Credit. We also lose out on being able to study, work and travel easily in 27 other countries and the benefit of a large number of trade deals that we will have to replace that it is highly unlikely we will even get parity with as we are a smaller size than the EU. I fear that Brexit has hastened our journey towards mediocrity, that living standards and life expectancy will fall considerably over the next 10-20 years and that there will be a brain-drain towards the EU.
But most of your views are based on assumption at the moment. We don't yet know how successful or less successful us leaving the EU will be, so there is little value is making assumptions.
The country voted to leave. Let's move on and allow the EU and UK Parliament do their thing to hopefully make it a success.
The country voted to leave. Let's move on...
I’ll happily apply for a Scottish passport through it being my dad’s birthplace.
I wouldn’t want it to live there.You won't need it to live in Scotland. SNP have said they will accept anyone who wants to live there (true), even the English (joke ).
I’ll happily apply for a Scottish passport through it being my dad’s birthplace.
The irony being that it was a clear demonstration of the sovereignty of the member states. Like the time a Belgian province nearly collapsed the EU-Canada trade deal.I have noted before that some EU ideas have died at the German Constitutional court - how ironic is that? And why the heck does that court get to pontificate?
A thought experiment:
In the run up to the 2024 general election, a grassroots "Rejoin!" movement is formed and gains favourable coverage in the usual liberal media outlets. Perhaps it is accompanied by the formation of a new political party with a flagship policy of rejoining the EU (sort of an anti Brexit Party). Alternatively, the cause is taken up by one or more of the smaller parties.
How does this make you feel? What would you do?
I voted remain. But we are where we are - and the potential flexibility outside of the EU is hard to ignore especially at times like these.
The EU itself now needs a good 20 years to settle down into something that looks more permanent. A fully formed Euro with a central exchequer is needed to make it work. A fully formed constitution is needed too - even right now the German constitutional court is telling the Euro bank that it is out of order. I have noted before that some EU ideas have died at the German Constitutional court - how ironic is that? And why the heck does that court get to pontificate?
But, I suspect it will fall apart at the edges before true convergence that create a proper Euro can happen - there is no way to actually get economic alignment between the Northern industrial units and the Southern holiday units.
And Scotland would really want to put itself in ? - The EU would not prop up Scotland in the way that the combined UK does. Won't happen, even if they are a small country the EU are not going to take on net cost entrants for a long time - Brexit has just put a big torpedo shaped hole in the EU budget.
So when the EU has become what it will be, then will be a good time to examine any potential benefits from rejoining. It will take some strong selling to the average Joe and Joan when some of their tax return would be going directly to a central treasury in Brussels.