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Record Cleaning Machines.

Discussion in 'audio' started by Mullardman, Sep 15, 2021.

  1. Mullardman

    Mullardman Moderately extreme...

    I'm a bit out of touch with current products. Some might say I'm a bit out of touch with reality...;)
    Considering getting a machine ....preferably sensibly priced..say under £ 500
    Minimum fuss and as compact as practicable ...and of course..effective.
    What does the team think?
  2. divedeepdog

    divedeepdog pfm Member

    Record cleaning is a fuss no matter whether you go ultrasonic, wet vac or both.

    Velvet Vortex is an effective ultrasonic cleaner, made by a very nice man.

    *No hiding, I know Tim, wouldn’t recommend a dud though…
  3. Le Baron

    Le Baron Unbiased advice at reasonable rates

    Then the plastic Ronco record wrecker cleaner is for you!

    (I just use a finger of washing-up liquid and the sink)

    Rob998 and Guinnless like this.
  4. AudioAl

    AudioAl pfm Member

    Do you want a nice quiet unit or one the makes you DEAF :eek:
  5. deebster

    deebster Half Man Half Biscuit

    mikechadwick and Rk19 like this.
  6. uncl_nigel

    uncl_nigel pfm Member

    Quiet wet clean+vacuum will cost you... I went from the effective and NOISY Moth to the effective and relatively quiet Clearaudio Smart Matrix Pro (at about double the budget you mentioned). Think seriously about ear protection if you intend to clean more than one record at a time with a lot of the cheaper machines.?.
  7. AudioAl

    AudioAl pfm Member

  8. Darren L

    Darren L pfm Member

    I too use a Project, a black one bought just when tge new silver ones were introduced, good machine, very effective, not as ugly or as noisy as the Moth I previously owned, but a good tool
  9. Mynamemynaim

    Mynamemynaim 38yrs a Naim owner

    I'm really not one for dragging a bit of nylon string or brushes over a record
    I also don't think vacuum alone is enough for an effective clean

    So that just leaves one choice for me (and the one I went for...and am happy with). Ultrasound bath cleaner
    Linnovice likes this.
  10. AudioAl

    AudioAl pfm Member

    My method is ultrasonic first and once only ,
    Then a wet wash and vac on my Loricraft PRC4 as needed ,
    In 5 years of wet washing the brush and cord have never done any harm to any of my LP's

    Zero years a Naim owner :D
  11. Joolzdee

    Joolzdee pfm Member

    Another very happy Project VC-S Mk2 user here.
    Got it NOS just as the aluminium models came out for £279.
    It gives grubby second hand records a new lease of life and magically gets rid of static on new ones.
    A quick wash and vac and a fresh Nagaoka sleeve and you're good to go.
    Darren L, mikechadwick and Rk19 like this.
  12. martin dawson

    martin dawson pfm Member

    I had a Keith Monks way back in the early 80’s worked well then later I bought aVP1 16.5 very good machine but noisy.


  13. topoxforddoc

    topoxforddoc pfm Member

    I have a Keith Monks Mk 2 Classic too - just a brilliant RCM - better and much quieter than my previous Moth. This is a good buy as the KMAL Classic machines are now >£3k new. Spares and servicing still available.
  14. Yank

    Yank Bulbous Also Tapered

    I've had a Nitty-Gritty 1.0 since 1985, and it still works just fine. It has rescued many used-record-store finds.

    If I had to replace it, though, I'd go with a Pro-Ject or Okki-Nokki, something that rotates the records with a motor. The NG is all-manual.
  15. gninnam

    gninnam Is it a hobby or a disease

    DIY Ultasound for me and works a treat (noisy though...)
  16. foxwelljsly

    foxwelljsly Hawkwind and Fire

    DIY ultrasonic cleaning is a time and motion nightmare and once you've put several litres of cleaning solution in the tank, you have to decant it or use it before it goes rancid. It takes a long time and is very noisy and you still have to vacuum clean the record to finish it off.

    A good vacuum RCM is great, if noisy. Make sure you put a few drops of tergitol in your homebrew fluid, though. I like the moth as you can apply water to one side whilst vacuuming, with the assistance of gravity, the other. Get a kitchen timer to time how long the solution stays on (2-5 minutes depending on dirtiness in my experience).
    Suffolk Tony likes this.
  17. mickyricky

    mickyricky pfm Member

    I have a Velvet Vortex and find that yes it does what Tim says it does ..Have a nosey to his web site for further info ..
  18. Le Baron

    Le Baron Unbiased advice at reasonable rates

    Back in the past I went record hunting with a 1970s DJ who had an encyclopaedic knowledge of music. I remember him buying a stack of 2nd hand jazz and funk records, some 10" albums. Then we went back to his house and had his wife's shepherd's pie while he washed the records in the slop-stone sink with drops of fairy liquid. Magic restoration. That's why I started doing it.
    No matter how many records anyone has (and they don't all need washing!) and if they're passionate about their music in that way, spending a Sunday afternoon cleaning some records manually is not a chore it's a pleasure. The technology does the things I can't do and I do the things I can.
    foxwelljsly likes this.
  19. Stuart Frazer

    Stuart Frazer pfm Member

    There is a used VPI 16 with what looks to be the upgraded 16.5? suction arm on ebay at the moment with a starting bid of £350 plus £30 UK postage:

    VPI HW16 record cleaner | eBay

    Something like this should be a good purchase. You just then need some fluid and time.
  20. AudioAl

    AudioAl pfm Member

    Noisy o_O ? Just the fizzing noise
    gninnam likes this.

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