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Discussion in 'off topic' started by hifinutt, Apr 19, 2021.

  1. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    Some always will.
     
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  2. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

    The only possible verdict, based on what I have seen and read.

    I look forward to the right-wingers who were happy to run interference for Chauvin a couple of days ago returning to this thread and acknowledging their mistake.
     
  3. Cheese

    Cheese Bitter lover

    The right verdict, and the only way to go in future, but he also pays for the whole lot before him, who usually got away with their crimes. Also, if proven 'not guilty', 1992 LA riots would pale into insignificance compared to the US- or even worldwide protests that would ensue. Blood would flow.
     
  4. Rockmeister

    Rockmeister pfm Member

    Interesting future for police recruitment now. Having to be:
    Intelligent, quick thinking, considerate, unbiased, capable of controlled aggression, tough, kind, socially aware, unpredjudiced and etc is right of course, but from where will they recruit enough officers of that kind? I hope they can and do, because now is the time do do it.

    Oh and Chauvin? Just another asshole welcomed in by the cops who appreciate having some 'hardmen' around. Sometimes such people are needed I suppose, but although he deserved this verdict, there is, in my mind, just a concern for how the newnice police may well be lining themselves up for exploitation by societies less well mannered members. Those who (like the finest of number 8's in Rugby Union) know just how far to break the law. I see crime, I see litigation, I see troubled and muddled times ahead.
    Except for the bastard lawyers ofc. They'll win, as they always do.

    It's a good day, but there's trouble ahead IMO.
     
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  5. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    An enormous "Thank You" due to the 17 year old girl who took the video of this murder. Without her there would probably have been a different verdict and a lot of trouble on the streets.
     
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  6. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    Tackleberry from "Police Academy" springs to mind. Spends the evening polishing his gun.

    Come on, you've seen enough buddy movies to know how it works. Clever young idealistic recruit is teamed up with cynical, hard-bitten, time served cop 6 months from his retirement. Rookie cop learns how to handle him/her self in the tough old world out there, cynical old cop learns that brawn needs brains to back it up, together they take down the cartel after some clever detective work and a good old fashioned gunfight at the end in which the old guy's life is saved by the quick thinking of the rookie and a well-thrown spanner. Cynical old cop decides to put back retirement for another year or two, rookie survives and decides that they won't go back to schoolteaching after all.
     
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  7. Rockmeister

    Rockmeister pfm Member

    Although, I always had time for Dirty Harry.

    “So, the question you have to ask yourself is,
    are you feeling lucky? Well, are you, punk?”

    Hollywood has a lot to answer for.
     
  8. herb

    herb music live

    Talk about furtive eyes above his mask when the verdict was read out.
     
  9. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    The judge’s comments about the congresswoman and her comments invalidating the trial make me fear Chauvin will not only appeal but will win his appeal.
     
  10. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    Why did the judge let the jury have access to media etc ? Perhaps for this very reason...
     
  11. Yank

    Yank Bulbous Also Tapered

    Without the video Floyd probably would never have become a cause celebre.
     
  12. Yank

    Yank Bulbous Also Tapered

    I thought they were sequestered after the closing arguments?
     
  13. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    He absolutely wouldn't have been. It would have been "resisted arrest, usual restraint procedures adopted, suspect continued struggling, it is possible that he injured himself and tragically later died". It wouldn't even have got to court.
     
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  14. AnilS

    AnilS pfm Member

    Very much this.

    I've seen the arrest and you can see and hear GF pleading with them. He is tearful, almost knowing he's going to die.

    This is really upsetting but the true prevailed.
     
  15. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    My take, based on viewing the video, with what Chauvin said and did and facial expression and how he held himself, is that
    he held Floyd down for all that time because he was enjoying doing it. Agree with verdict certainly.
     
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  16. martin clark

    martin clark pinko bodger

    Looking at the Washington post front page this eve , the US "...Attorney General Merrick Garland announced a sweeping Justice Department probe into the practices and culture of the city’s police department, elevating the federal government’s role a day after former officer Derek Chauvin was found guilty in the murder of George Floyd."

    First - thats a breath of fresh air compared to what one would expect 6months ago.

    And even more seriously - let's hope that light a fire under the abusive culture(s) behind & condoning, perhaps enabling such dreadful acts (and I'd include the militarisation of policing in there); and that the findings stick, and are heard widely.
     
  17. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    I have not heard that they had access
     
  18. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

  19. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    AFAIK Judge Peter Cahill denied a request from Defence Lawyer to sequester the jury. They went home every night and saw the media, and had access to smart phones.
     
  20. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    They were sequestered after closing arguments. Did Maxine Water's comments come before or after that point?
     

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