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Oh Britain, what have you done (part ∞+3)?

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Nick_G, Mar 8, 2018.

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  1. Nick_G

    Nick_G pfm Member

    EU freezes Brexit talks until Britain produces Irish border solution - Independent
    Get out of that one smeg-for-brains May

    Also: Bleak Brexit analysis published by Parliament - Guardian

    I wonder what that might be? "We're screwed", perhaps?

    See here:

    Edit: Looks like my post crossed with Dec's.
  2. HarryB

    HarryB pfm Member

    Can't believe the Tusk thing isn't on BBC website.
  3. Vinniemac

    Vinniemac pfm Member

    Wouldn’t surprise me in the least. BBC news is appalling these days.
  4. richardg

    richardg Admonishtrator

  5. sean99

    sean99 pfm Member

    This illustrates the key weakness of the Brexit argument. Get out to .... what ?

    In life you only get a limited set of choices, and some times you have to work within the present confines because it's the LEAST BAD OPTION. This is what Brexiters don't seem to understand. It's true the EU has a lot of problems just as it's true that Westminster has a lot of problems, but they have completely failed to demonstrate that leaving the EU is the better option.

    So please, brexiters quit carping about the failures of the EU and tell us exactly how the UK will be better off leaving the UK and going it alone. And, no the UK is no longer a world superpower, militarily or economically. The UK is a very pleasant, small, heavily indebted, not particularly well educated, service economy island off the coast of Europe with a structural balance of trade deficit that will gradually erode the standard of living. It seems to me that leaving the "protection" of the EU will accelerate this decline, but if you brexiters think it will improve the UK economically, culturally, and in terms of social welfare let's hear how that will happen.
  6. matthewr

    matthewr spɹɐʍʞɔɐq spɹoɔǝɹ ɹnoʎ sʎɐld

  7. NeilR

    NeilR pfm Member

    I can hear the tumbleweed blowing in the wind...
  8. richardg

    richardg Admonishtrator

    Is that the only part of my post that is interesting to you? You don't think it is worth discussing instead how a conclusion has been made that the UK is the import processing baddy across the whole of the EU? And must be fined.......
  9. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    The prison camp guards want to hurt us. Again.
  10. NeilR

    NeilR pfm Member

    Time for another one of those victim cards

  11. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    I feel like the EU. If you are going to argue with someone at least quote/blame the right person.
  12. richardg

    richardg Admonishtrator

    Germany was one of the supposed victims of VAT fraud, since stuff has been arriving into their country via UK...I invite whoever made this up to come down to the Zoll offices where I live and I'll show them how easy it is. The people that are supposedly doing this are foreign criminal gangs and are probably sending it to the UK because the paperwork is in English, not German. Meanwhile the French and Germans are getting away with all sorts of stuff on the border here.
  13. jackbarron

    jackbarron Chelsea, London


    "Speaking in Dublin alongside the Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar, European Council President Donald Tusk said talks would be a case of “Ireland first” and that “the risk of destabilising the fragile peace process must be avoided at all costs”."

  14. richardg

    richardg Admonishtrator

    Good response.
  15. Nick_G

    Nick_G pfm Member

    No, I'm hoping that this will be the issue that brings down this incompetent, spineless, callous, lying, useless, excuse for a 'government' that care more about saving their own sorry selves rather than doing what is right for the country. I've never known any as bad as this in my lifetime.
  16. markvdv

    markvdv pfm Member

    Germany was not investigated, UK was, actually UK was investigated again, after a previous investigation showed they did not collect VAT and customs. They got a second chance.
  17. richardg

    richardg Admonishtrator

    I don't think that gets to the heart of the matter at all....actually it does in a way. Refer to those childish cards, the one with Liam Fox's ugly mug on it.
  18. matthewr

    matthewr spɹɐʍʞɔɐq spɹoɔǝɹ ɹnoʎ sʎɐld


  19. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    As someone who voted out in Brexit and then promptly moved to Strasbourg to gain advantage over his business competitors why don't you tell us how the UK should prosper ?
    tuga and HarryB like this.
  20. HarryB

    HarryB pfm Member

    He said something the other day about having different facts to the facts presented. The most arrogant post I've ever seen.

    This should be interesting.
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