Don't forget those in and around Clitheroe.
Don't forget those in and around Clitheroe.
What are the odds that BT will start offering a porn or porn free broadband package with the porn free one costing much more?
Sorry you're jumping ahead here, kids are on the internet in some form or other from around age 4. This is not about sex education, but preventing kids stumbling upon images unsuitable for them to se at this point in life.
Is is not about poor parenting, it is about the ease of access to unsuitable images that no reasonable parenting can prevent.
It is a selfish society that puts its own desires ahead of protecting children.
stephen bennett
Mr Enigma
Sadly no. The new rules will mean that watching any kind of material restricted by the government, whether it be owned or streamed, will be illegal. It doesn't matter if the participants or viewers are consenting adults.
Stephen
stephen bennett
Mr Enigma
I assume you think the government should also ban alcohol, smoking and cars then? These harm a lot more children than online material.
Regards
Stephen
sean99
pfm Member
[SARCASM]Perhaps we should have parents homeschool their children ? Perhaps parents should be made to pay for costly vaccinations for their children ? Perhaps we should scrap social services: after all it's not our business to look out for other peoples' kids ?[/SARCASM]
TV is already regulated to reduce the chances that children will stumble on unsuitable material. The internet, as a new form of media, should be open to the same kind of regulation. We can discuss where to draw the line, but frankly I find these pseudo libertarian arguments put forth by some posters extremely simplistic, and especially coming from people who have not raised their own kids.
stephen bennett
Mr Enigma
If filters work, they should be available as a opt-in for parents. I'm not responsible for other people's inability to manage their children.
Stephen
Edit; gawd, I sound like Chris!
sean99
pfm Member
Since children can't buy alcohol and cigs, can't drive cars, and must be correctly restrained while riding in cars the government has already legislated in these areas.
Similarly they're not proposing to ban the internet, merely to default to a filter that will prevent children from accidentally viewing unsuitable content.
paulfromcamden
Baffled
I use the internet for hours a day (too many hours tbh...) I can't remember EVER 'accidentally' finding pornography. If it's happened it was a very long time ago.
Unless you're a budding twitcher typing 'shag birds' into google I'm not sure how big a problem it is.
Unless you're a budding twitcher typing 'shag birds' into google I'm not sure how big a problem it is.
sean99
pfm Member
Is it such a burden for you to disable the filter on your internet connection ?
By your logic there should be no social services and no public education. Whether you like it or not we are collectively responsible for the welfare of the next generation (who may one day be caring for you in your old age).
dynodebs
/°\
I disagree. It has nothing to do with preventing four year-olds from stumbling on porn and everything to do with putting controls in place for the future.
They don't even have a clear argument for this action they propose - look at the way they conflate the viewing of child images by predators, and the viewing of material by children (who, btw, go all the way up to the age of 16)
What is appropriate for a 16 year old may not be for a tot. Imo, it's the person with parental responsibility who needs to decide that.
Debs
aquapiranha
pfm Member
I think dave is directly targeting mumsnet voters with this one..
Mescalito
pfm Member
For now.
Wrong, its nothing to do with parental responsibility which hopefully should be there ALSO. Its about ease of access, full stop.
Its like having all the porn magazines in a magazine shop mixed between everything else instead of on the top shelf.
yeh and those kids actually with irresponsible parents, stuff em...of course thats what a caring society does...
zygote23
pfm Member
No no no....just sterilise the parents and the kids so the gene pool doesn't get any worse.