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Michael Fremer's Music Room Tour

Discussion in 'audio' started by RoA, Mar 28, 2021.

  1. ToTo Man

    ToTo Man the band not the dog

    I was referring to the floor-to-ceiling rack of vinyl that the back of his listening seat is almost touching. I'd expect this to act like a massive reflective headrest causing very early reflections.
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  2. yuckyamson

    yuckyamson pfm Member

    Hi Tuga,

    Um, no. I wasn't confused. I'm aware of the differences between dipole, bipole, omni, and direct radiating.

    When I listen to ML's, however, I feel that they can in certain systems and setups do amazing imaging tricks, which is what I was referring to. That's how they *sound*, regardless of measurements or design intent.

    I also often quickly tire of them after the novelty has worn off.

    And also, regardless of measurements, fremer's system sounds excellent.
  3. yuckyamson

    yuckyamson pfm Member

    Perhaps it's the camera angle but when I was there you could walk clear around the listening chair. There was I think likely 2-3 ft. behind the listening chair. But again, that rack is one of many and the room falls back at least 20' behind that, a bit cavernous, or labrynthine.

    It was a stonking good system.
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  4. tuga

    tuga Legal Alien

    Have you listened to his system (in his room)?
  5. gryphongryph

    gryphongryph Active Member

    I like both, but the British Audiophile gives you much better insight into the product with the way he compares products around the same price bracket, I think he is a fresh breath of air and I wish him well.
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  6. yuckyamson

    yuckyamson pfm Member

    Yes. That was my point in commenting in the first place.

    I spent several hours there.

    Listening to music.

    On the system in question.

    ....but no, I didn't bring any measuring equipment or criticize frequency response graphs, so perhaps my assessments are less valid.
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  7. tuga

    tuga Legal Alien

    Your assessment is perfectly valid for yourself. I don't know where you are coming from so I take it at face value, but I would expect such a system to be reasonably competent.
    I would expect the bass issues I mentioned to be audible but perhaps they're not that obvious (which I doubt) and you'd have to know what to listen for.
  8. tuga

    tuga Legal Alien

    This comment of your is pretty meaningless though:

  9. ToTo Man

    ToTo Man the band not the dog

    Going off-topic a bit here but I can't help but notice the similarities between the above graph and my own in-room response of my Celestion Ditton 66, which I have in a similar position in my room to Fremer (in the corners but closer to the front wall than the side wall). I therefore assume the dip in the upper bass is due to the close proximity to the side wall? Does anyone know how wide Fremer's room is?

    Last edited: Apr 8, 2021
  10. yuckyamson

    yuckyamson pfm Member

    Yeah, it just doesn't have the same clarity as a measurement graph. Requires "intellect" to understand.
  11. tuga

    tuga Legal Alien

    Really? Who’d’ve thunk it... Absolutely meaningless.
  12. yuckyamson

    yuckyamson pfm Member

    Yup just keep sending those measurements.
  13. cantgetnonut

    cantgetnonut Active Member

    Yuckyamson, I enjoyed learning of your time spent at MF's. The other posts are tiresome in comparison (mine included).
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  14. yuckyamson

    yuckyamson pfm Member

    What can I say? I've heard mega systems before that did some really fancy stuff but didn't really leave me wanting to stay longer, keep going record after record, or try anything on it. MF's system did. It was just damned good and focused less on imaging/staging stuff than on just solid end to end dynamics, smoothness, fullness (without bloat) and detail. There wasn't a hint of strain (as you would expect at those prices).
    Bettisdad and BlueYeti like this.
  15. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    So to be clear. We have contributor who has been lucky enough to hear this system & kind enough to relay this experience? As an alternative we have another who hasn’t but has stared at some graph or other & claims to know better?

    This really is peak hifi fora behaviour. I don’t think it can ever be bettered.
  16. Bettisdad

    Bettisdad Active Member

    Just what I was thinking!
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  17. yuckyamson

    yuckyamson pfm Member

    I was very lucky to hear the system and Michael is a very affable, fun, warm host.
  18. tuga

    tuga Legal Alien

    Thank you. I do my best.

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