SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
Substitute 'deal' for A50, it still reads well.
A different political situation at the time (accepting the principle of the referendum result vs accepting the actual shitty deal now) but, in essence, I agree.Shame he didn't feel the same way about A50, they wanted that for the same reasons.
It didn’t work for him thoughA different political situation at the time (accepting the principle of the referendum result vs accepting the actual shitty deal now) but, in essence, I agree.
Regardless, the full text of Corbyn's statement (added to my earlier post) is excellent and is exactly what the opposition ought to be saying.
Yes that’s true, although I think the message that all politicians are the same and that’s how we like it thank you was communicated very well simply by choosing Starmer as leader in the first place.It's not the issue itself but the symbolism and how it feeds the toxic narrative that "all politicians are the same". If the Lib-Dems and Greens have anything about them they will capitalise on Starmer's "betrayal of young voters" and make gains at Labour's expense. I agree that this becomes less of an issue if/when Starmer ****s up on the other issues you mention.
Good statement from Corbyn, comfortably settling back in his old role of opposition to the leadership of his party in addition to lobbing a few at BoJo.Yes!
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1344280898112544771
Well trolled sir.
Now that's what I call forensic opposition.
That’s probably fairly typical of the mode of political investment of the constituency in question, right down to the lingering preoccupation with Corbyn. Low expectations failing to be met: the centrist lot for the foreseeable I’m afraid.I don't think I was particularly "heavily invested in Starmer", as I saw him as the best of a not very good selection, but I was certainly hoping he would be an improvement on Magic Grandpa. So, yes, his performance in the last few months has been disappointing.
Something centrists can share with leftists, then.That’s probably fairly typical of the mode of political investment of the constituency in question, right down to the lingering preoccupation with Corbyn. Low expectations failing to be met: the centrist lot for the foreseeable I’m afraid.
Balm for the centrist soul! It’s one reason your lot will still be cracking wise about Magic Grandpa in 10 years time.Something centrists can share with leftists, then.
Have to admit I’m taking some satisfaction in watching their fantasy politician collide with reality.
I don't think so. Drood is the one who brought him back to this thread to stir the pot a bit and why not? It was a good statement.Balm for the centrist soul! It’s one reason your lot will still be cracking wise about Magic Grandpa in 10 years time.
Yes!
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1344280898112544771
Well trolled sir.
Edited to add Corbyn's full statement (on Facebook):
Now that's what I call forensic opposition.
Corbyn was many things, but not an ideological vacuumIt is funny how Labour “leaders” seem able to express an articulate opinion from the back benches, but become duplicitous cowards and ideological vacuums once placed in any position of real responsibility or scruitiny. Both Corbyn and Starmer followed the exact same trajectory from initially credible to beyond useless. Likely another indication the party as a political institution is structurally dysfunctional. It isn’t even the politics of the past. It is just nothing. An irrelevant background noise.
I don't think so. Drood is the one who brought him back to this thread to stir the pot a bit and why not? It was a good statement.
I'll bet you a bottle of good stuff (if we're still around then) that there will be fewer references to Corbyn from centrists in 10 years' time than cracks about Blair from the leftists today. And Blair left office 13 years ago.
Hey, it’s your turn to have a go! I’m not going to stop you. But I’m also not going to deny myself a chuckle or two as people who’ve been spent the last 5 years lecturing the left about realism are forced to face a few unpleasant facts.Saves having to defeat the Tories to get some I suppose.
You’re on!I don't think so. Drood is the one who brought him back to this thread to stir the pot a bit and why not? It was a good statement.
I'll bet you a bottle of good stuff (if we're still around then) that there will be fewer references to Corbyn from centrists in 10 years' time than cracks about Blair from the leftists today. And Blair left office 13 years ago.