Labour at it again... anti-Semitism... #II
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maxflinn
pfm Member
Finkelstein is no conspiracy theorist.
Do you remember the thread someone posted here a while back highlighting how pro-Israeli people were continuously editing the Wiki pages of those opposed to the illegal Israeli occupation, and opposed to war...
I urge people to listen to Finkelstein. He's a very clever man.
ks.234
Half way to Infinity
If the panorama prog was impartial, why did it not interview any JVFL members?
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Tony L
Administrator
I’ve not “given up on learning the “truth””, I just feel I have vastly better options available to me than a fractured divided party where neither its MPs, Lords, membership or electorate are even remotely on the same page. That’s before we even get to the likes of Hoey, Mann, McCluskey, Flint and all the other absolute deal-breakers for pro-EU anti-nationalists such as myself. Labour are an utter joke I want no part of! As such why would I waste my time researching yet another splinter within? It is irrelevant, the party are clearly unelectable at present.
gavreid
Pretty Words...
I was referring to the Woman in the video. She describes how the campaign started even before Corbyn was elected. To the best of my knowledge the first attack came when Malia Bouattia was elected the first Muslim woman President of NUS
ff1d1l
pfm Member
Good point. That would appear to be basic balance to me. Must say though, I haven't watched it yet.
Still
he said his naim was ralph
The Panorama prog' didn't need to interview any JVFP members to do its' job professionaly and appropriately. That is investigative journalism publishing robust credible evidence of a serious problem that is of public interest. Throughout the prog' Labours' responses and rebuttals were given (they were consulted during production/post production), so much inherent balance.
ks.234
Half way to Infinity
John Ware has a long history of campaigning against Corbyn and using false evidence against him. One more example of an acute lack of impartiality and balance here
“sent a copy of Mr Corbyn’s diary to prove he did not attend a conference in Cairo that advocated attacks on British and American troops, as was stated by the programme's presenter, John Ware.“
Still waiting for actual evidence to support the allegations in the Panorama prog.
ks.234
Half way to Infinity
Now that’s what I call robust evidence! Steve Bell is as good as the voice of GodHere's the Steve Bell cartoon the Guardian censored
notaclue
pfm Member
Oh dear. Jeremy's "friends" in Hamas are not helping matters.
"A senior member of Gaza's Islamist rulers Hamas has encouraged Palestinians across the globe to kill Jews … He continued: "Seven million Palestinians outside, enough warming up, you have Jews with you in every place. You should attack every Jew possible in all the world and kill them." " https://www.voanews.com/middle-east/hamas-official-condemned-after-calling-palestinians-kill-jews
"A senior member of Gaza's Islamist rulers Hamas has encouraged Palestinians across the globe to kill Jews … He continued: "Seven million Palestinians outside, enough warming up, you have Jews with you in every place. You should attack every Jew possible in all the world and kill them." " https://www.voanews.com/middle-east/hamas-official-condemned-after-calling-palestinians-kill-jews
DonQuixote99
pfm Member
"Little children, kill one another."
vuk
\o/ choose anarchy
that is irrelevant when it is an interview between two people with outstanding reputations which we are able to watch and make up our minds about. unless of course, you think authoritarianism is the way to go.
vuk
\o/ choose anarchy
it's not even shooting the messenger. it's shooting the person who rented a horse to the messenger.
Seanm
pfm Member
Centre left media closing ranks:
https://twitter.com/samfoster99/status/1152139989637128192?s=21
Wild leftist Simon Wren Lewis spiked by New Statesman for suggesting that centre left might consider getting behind Corbyn, given that he’s the only realistic means of stopping Johnson. Bit close to the bone I guess.
https://twitter.com/samfoster99/status/1152139989637128192?s=21
Wild leftist Simon Wren Lewis spiked by New Statesman for suggesting that centre left might consider getting behind Corbyn, given that he’s the only realistic means of stopping Johnson. Bit close to the bone I guess.
gavreid
Pretty Words...
It's a tremendous shame/disgrace what they're doing to the Labour Party for their own ends. Let's not forget that Corbyn was the only candidate of the left who could have appeared on the ballot paper, so it is he we have.
ks.234
Half way to Infinity
The Steve Bell cartoon above nails it. There is a very well funded right wing collective interest being brought against the left.
Seanm
pfm Member
Predictably, Wren-Lewis is being accused of deflection and antisemitism. His post on the reaction to his article is worth quoting at some length:
Next week the Labour lords are planning a vote of no confidence in Corbyn. They don't have any alternative plans for dealing with antisemitism, they don't have any alternative policies or strategies, and they don't have an alternative candidate. It's strictly a wrecking operation designed to establish an equivalence between the far right and the only force capable of taking it on. The whole thing is utterly reckless.
ks.234
Half way to Infinity
one of the central allegations against Corbyn in the whole AS thing, has been that he has been too slow to act.
It now seems that some of the very people who have been making those accusations are the people responsible for deliberately implementing the delays
Iain McNicol as Labour General Secretary was head of the NEC until 2018.
Sam Matthews was Chief Investigations Officer under McNicol until 2018.
Both appeared on the Panorama prog.
In the case of Council candidate Alan Bull, who posted clear AS comments on Facebook, it was Matthews who twice chose not suspension, but an investigation, but more revealing is his comment that;
Delays, downgrading and the problems of dealing with AS were a deliberate policy created by Corbyn opponents.
These people are political opportunists with an agenda that overrides any consideration of actually doing something about AS.
It now seems that some of the very people who have been making those accusations are the people responsible for deliberately implementing the delays
Iain McNicol as Labour General Secretary was head of the NEC until 2018.
Sam Matthews was Chief Investigations Officer under McNicol until 2018.
Both appeared on the Panorama prog.
In the case of Council candidate Alan Bull, who posted clear AS comments on Facebook, it was Matthews who twice chose not suspension, but an investigation, but more revealing is his comment that;
“The NEC last year agreed that suspensions should be used exceedingly sparingly”
Iain, now Lord McNicol was the man who oversaw that directive. Sam Matthews acted on it without complaint
Delays, downgrading and the problems of dealing with AS were a deliberate policy created by Corbyn opponents.
These people are political opportunists with an agenda that overrides any consideration of actually doing something about AS.
Still
he said his naim was ralph
It's not all about the sainted leader.
Still seeking actual evidence to support the actual evidence in the Panorama prog.
Obviously not e.g. it is an interview, but edited by RT. Who knows what they cut, or manipulated?
RT is notorious for extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency and/or is fake news.
Ironically it appears you risk being played by those with authoritarian intent.
More like you shooting yourself in the foot.
Very droll!
Still seeking actual evidence to support the actual evidence in the Panorama prog.
Obviously not e.g. it is an interview, but edited by RT. Who knows what they cut, or manipulated?
RT is notorious for extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency and/or is fake news.
Ironically it appears you risk being played by those with authoritarian intent.
More like you shooting yourself in the foot.
Very droll!