Germany sees sense and legalises cannabis
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awkwardbydesign
Officially Awesome
"Why continue to waste billions on failed enforcement when we could generate billions in tax revenue like Colorado? Why drive 100% of cannabis users towards organised crime groups and street dealers, when about 70% of cannabis users in Canada buy their cannabis from licensed stores?"
Quoted from the article.
In a similar vein, when I was a heroin and amphetamine addict in the '60s, there was a legal route. I used to get a private prescription, and have it filled at Boots, once a week. Pure and a known strength. The government changed that, first to NHS clinics, and then to nothing. Strangely, criminal sellers proliferated, initially Chinese and then Mafia and others. And of course they wanted to increase consumption for profit, so would sell anything to anyone. When I was using, in London, if a registered junky sold to kids they were likely to get a kicking, but legal drugs was not a vote winner, so now we have the current mess.
And of course, I didn't have to steal to feed my habit; I was 100% legal.
Quoted from the article.
In a similar vein, when I was a heroin and amphetamine addict in the '60s, there was a legal route. I used to get a private prescription, and have it filled at Boots, once a week. Pure and a known strength. The government changed that, first to NHS clinics, and then to nothing. Strangely, criminal sellers proliferated, initially Chinese and then Mafia and others. And of course they wanted to increase consumption for profit, so would sell anything to anyone. When I was using, in London, if a registered junky sold to kids they were likely to get a kicking, but legal drugs was not a vote winner, so now we have the current mess.
And of course, I didn't have to steal to feed my habit; I was 100% legal.
I am a retired Purchasing Manager but to my complete and utter shame I would not have a clue where to buy recreational drugs. I have never taken a drug in my life and have no wish to do so but if anyone wants to buy the stuff, they should be allowed to do it. It's called freedom and only fascists want to curtail freedom of speech, movement and recreation.
But if the stuff need some quality control then by all means licence it and also tax it to benefit the government coffers aka cigarettes
But if the stuff need some quality control then by all means licence it and also tax it to benefit the government coffers aka cigarettes
blossomchris
I feel better than James Brown
on a month off it at the mo', always do this regularly as the gains are less when you use it regularly, i.e rheumatism, boredom, listening to music, being happy. long time user here, some 50 years plus.
gez
pfm Member
Buried in the sand in what way? What exactly are you claiming that the UK is wilfully ignoring with respect to canabis?How much longer can the UK keep its head buried in the sand?
With Germany legalising cannabis, Europe is reaching a tipping point. Britain, take note | Steve Rolles
Regulating cannabis use is no longer radical but an increasingly normalised strategy, says drug policy analyst Steve Rolleswww.theguardian.com
gez
pfm Member
Yup with the exception of maybe new parents, canabis users (as a group generalisation) are the most boring people on the planet.
gez
pfm Member
Indeed it should, if we want to live in anything that approximates a civilised society.
Gingerbeard
Ayup Me Duck
Everywhere in the UK is awash with cannabis and the police, if you can find one, have no interest in preventing you from smoking it, hence it being more openly used.
I recently found some black tar heroine close to where I live and when out walking my dog. I thought it was hashish at first, but didn’t recognise the smell so looked it up on the internet. It went straight in the bin. I’m glad I picked it up and not any young children.
I was working in Liverpool late last year and walked around the city and the smell of cannabis was thick in the air. Nobody was bothered. I love the smell, always have.
As an ex-smoker and toker I don’t mind it at all and wish they would legalise it. I don’t particularly want to smoke it again myself, but would happily partake in some edibles.
Another reason is that we might finally be able to get some proper CBD in this country, which I would take every day for all of its positive benefits.
Personally, I would be more interested in them legalising Ayahuasca, DMT and other psychedelics, so I can have a controlled and assisted journey to help with my Depression and PTSD (I chose not to have SSRI’s, awful things) - I could travel to South America but it isn’t cheap.
This country is so backwards in so many respects it’s untrue, just look at assisted suicide, so I cannot see our laws changing anytime soon, even though it would generate good tax revenues. Time will tell, but the more countries that do start legalise it, the more I think the UK will eventually follow suit, or remain stuck in the dark ages.
I recently found some black tar heroine close to where I live and when out walking my dog. I thought it was hashish at first, but didn’t recognise the smell so looked it up on the internet. It went straight in the bin. I’m glad I picked it up and not any young children.
I was working in Liverpool late last year and walked around the city and the smell of cannabis was thick in the air. Nobody was bothered. I love the smell, always have.
As an ex-smoker and toker I don’t mind it at all and wish they would legalise it. I don’t particularly want to smoke it again myself, but would happily partake in some edibles.
Another reason is that we might finally be able to get some proper CBD in this country, which I would take every day for all of its positive benefits.
Personally, I would be more interested in them legalising Ayahuasca, DMT and other psychedelics, so I can have a controlled and assisted journey to help with my Depression and PTSD (I chose not to have SSRI’s, awful things) - I could travel to South America but it isn’t cheap.
This country is so backwards in so many respects it’s untrue, just look at assisted suicide, so I cannot see our laws changing anytime soon, even though it would generate good tax revenues. Time will tell, but the more countries that do start legalise it, the more I think the UK will eventually follow suit, or remain stuck in the dark ages.
flatpopely
Prog Rock/Moderator
I am a cyclist.
Finnegan
I like a bit of a cavort
What about your legendary stash of single malts?
Yes I once used too buy single malts and drink the stuff at a ludicrous rate. It was just a pleasant way to end a stressful day. Within a few weeks of retirement I replaced an evening dram of Whisky for a gentle afternoon sip of a Gin and Tonic with a small plate of mixed nuts.
I would guess I must have at least 50 bottles stashed away slowly aging.
Cheese
Bitter lover
Holland is traditionally very progressive, cannabis legalisation dates back to the late 70s. Still, they stepped back a few years ago. I guess there must be a reason.
blossomchris
I feel better than James Brown
Finnegan
I like a bit of a cavort
Moroccan hashish is plentiful, and easy to come by in Spain. Perhaps a spliff might be an entertaining accompaniment to your afternoon G&T?
Whisky has increased in value rather astonishingly over the last couple of decades. You could be sitting on a small windfall. If it’s just sitting in a cupboard, never to be drunk, I recommend you have it valued, with a view to auctioning off. All the more inheritance for your socialist grandchildren.
Finnegan
I like a bit of a cavort
I don’t think cannabis was ever actually legalised in The Netherlands. Rather, it is
tolerated and the law is not rigidly enforced. There have been intermittent attempts at regulation: In Amsterdam it can’t be sold alongside alcohol (at least it couldn’t when I lived there, but that was nearly 30 years ago). Then they introduced legislation that restricted its sale to Dutch citizens, but I have heard anecdotally that this is not enforced. I believe they have recently prohibited its use in public, and restricted its sale around the red light district.
The truth is, cannabis is now so interwoven into the Dutch economy, that there are too many vested interests to allow its complete prohibition.
