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General Election 2024

What happens if 75% of the current ****servative party stand down this weekend? Are they still classed as a functioning going concern. Would you do business with them when they seem to be deserting the party of order morals and public service a world leading authority on corruption and waffle. Flash and Ponty your time is now stand up and place your names as future Conservative members of Parliament you have never had a better chance . Instead of cosplaying your time is now do it i am willing to piss on your tweed suits to help.
 
Good précis of just how little change to expect under sir Keir‘s neo-Conservative administration.

“a party determined to promise as little change as possible... the change Starmer is offering doesn’t extend much further than changing the personnel at the top of the British state.”

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Keir Starmer’s Election Pitch: Change You Can’t Believe In

The British Labour Party will probably cruise to victory in July’s election after more than a decade of social vandalism by the Conservatives. But there is little popular enthusiasm for a party determined to promise as little change as possible.
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Bjork67 said:
What happens if 75% of the current ****servative party stand down this weekend? Are they still classed as a functioning going concern. Would you do business with them when they seem to be deserting the party of order morals and public service a world leading authority on corruption and waffle. Flash and Ponty your time is now stand up and place your names as future Conservative members of Parliament you have never had a better chance . Instead of cosplaying your time is now do it i am willing to piss on your tweed suits to help.
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You forgot Mick P. He can stand as member for Swindon and Southern Spain.
 
Finnegan said:
Good précis of just how little change to expect under sir Keir‘s neo-Conservative administration.

“a party determined to promise as little change as possible... the change Starmer is offering doesn’t extend much further than changing the personnel at the top of the British state.”

jacobin.com

Keir Starmer’s Election Pitch: Change You Can’t Believe In

The British Labour Party will probably cruise to victory in July’s election after more than a decade of social vandalism by the Conservatives. But there is little popular enthusiasm for a party determined to promise as little change as possible.
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While the media is to blame for a great deal of the misrepresentation and outright lies that is projected out way, even when a more balanced perspective is presented on these pages for example, some people still tell themselves a narrative about change that has little to do with available evidence.
 
I had respect for David Lammy. He spoke powerfully and eloquently about May’s ‘Hostile Environment’, Windrush, Grenfell etc, but he has destroyed any integrity and credibility now. Always sad to see people debase themselves.
 
Colin L said:
You forgot Mick P. He can stand as member for Swindon and Southern Spain.
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Too old. I think any new MP should be less than 55 years of age. It's a demanding job and requires long hours and a massive memory. It takes 5 years to get your feet under the table and then you are at least 60 and up for re election. Not a clever pre planned situation to be in.

The ideal age for a new MP is 40.

I went out for lunch yesterday and it lasted until the late evening and I suffered quite a shock. A long standing friend who is in his early seventies was suddenly forgetting things that were said a few minutes ago and this has happened in a matter of a few weeks. It was not only scary, it was sad.

We really have got to stop thinking that people can work forever, we should all be put out to grass at a much early age.
 
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Sloop John B said:
Call me morbid call me pale

the lesser of 2 evils

cutting off one’s nose to spite the face

best of a bad lot

I don’t get you guys sometimes. All over the EU there most likely will be a move to the right in elections in June, which may well threaten the EU going forward.

In the UK it looks like there will be a defeat for a right wing government with them losing power. Now you can argue all day about how left Labour is but if Labour win the election, it certainly isn’t a lurch to the right which has to be a good thing. The UK will probably be the European outlier by not lurching to the right.

Embrace it, it could be a the start of the dismantling of some of the Thatcher era stupidity. It’s probably likely that some water companies will be re-nationalised and not inconceivable that rail would also be in Labour’s first term. It would be stupid for Starmer to frighten the horses at this stage in the campaign but I would expect a Labour government to be much better than what a lot of you seem to think and not be Tory-Lite By a long shot.

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Some us just don't see a great deal of difference, especially when the hope of a socialist party, via Corbyn, was dispatched by his own party, and then called a jew hater. No, I don't see much to be happy about, but then, I'm a brit
 
gingermrkettle said:
And, to be accurate, the electorate in general elections. Twice. Against May and Johnson.
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Yes. Strange that those who say they want real change, rejected the chance for real change in the last election but embrace the chimera of change in this one.

A party that ejects social democracy but welcomes with open arms the far right of the Tory Party with open arms.

A party the expels Corbyn but sings the virtues of Elphicke is not going to change a thing
 
Seanm said:
Wait what about all your posts where you called him a pig-eyed **** or whatever. Have you changed your mind now he’s winning?
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Pudgy eyed. And I would be very surprised if I have ever called him a four-letter word that needs blanking out.

He has sensibly started wearing glasses to de-emphasize his rather small, pudgy eyes. He has improved all round. From PMQs to campaigning. Clearly a quick learner. Helped (massively), of course, by the Tory lunacy, but Sir Keir had put the work in to convince enough people that Labour were a genuine party of government.

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Of course, I will change my mind when I see he is capable of delivering a Labour government. That is what he is there to do and he deserves support for doing it.

Perhaps him joining the shadowy Trilateral Commission is the most concerning (an unusual and strange thing for him to do), but overall I look forward to his election as PM.
 
notaclue said:
Pudgy eyed. And I would be very surprised if I have ever called him a four-letter word that needs blanking out.

He has sensibly started wearing glasses to de-emphasize his rather small, pudgy eyes. He has improved all round. From PMQs to campaigning. Clearly a quick learner. Helped (massively), of course, by the Tory lunacy, but Sir Keir had put the work in to convince enough people that Labour were a genuine party of government.

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Of course, I will change my mind when I see he is capable of delivering a Labour government. That is what he is there to do and he deserves support for doing it.

Perhaps him joining the shadowy Trilateral Commission is the most concerning (an unusual and strange thing for him to do), but overall I look forward to his election as PM.
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What change do you expect from Starmer?
 
Someone thinks Sir Keir will bring change... Though his (now paywalled) columns are mostly whatever rubbish he can type in the shortest period of time so not exactly Andrew Marr.

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BORIS JOHNSON: Starmer would be the most dangerous PM since the 1970s

I just cannot believe that the British people would be so utterly mad as to hand Keir Starmer a majority on this scale.
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ks.234 said:
What change do you expect from Starmer?
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Less chaos in government and nicer, much more decent cohort of MPs in government, shorter NHS waiting lists, GB Energy and eventually lower energy bills, a return to a rules-based asylum system, breakfast clubs in primary schools. That's a few things he can genuinely deliver as a start.

Will need to wait for manifesto for full list.
 
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