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degradation of magnet in Troika MC cartridge???

Putting the OP Q into perspective the mineral magnetite has retained its magnetism for millions of years and thats after being exposed to all the elements that the Earth can throw at it.

When I was a school teacher I used to demonstrate alignment of the magnetic domains using a iron poker about 2'6" long. First I would demonstrate that it was not magnetised i.e. did not repell a compass needle as the magnet domains were randomly organised. Then I aligned the poker with the Earths magnetic field and wopped the stub end with a 10lb hammer. The poker had now become magnetised as some of the domains had aligned in one direction and the poker would now repel a compass needle. Then I misaligned the poker with the Earths field and gave it another wop and once again the poker was no longer a magnet.

Good stuff no?

Cheers,

DV
 
Oh, but where is your 'proof' DV, Gerald wants proof, not theory. Please provide proof that magnetite is millions of years old... ;).
 
Oh, but where is your 'proof' DV, Gerald wants proof, not theory. Please provide proof that magnetite is millions of years old... ;).

He can do his own research but to wet his appetite

"In Early Proterozoic (2.5 to 1.6 billion years ago) sedimentary rocks, magnetite occurs in large deposits formed as shallow marine sediments precipitated in Early Proterozoic oceans, during a time when the world’s atmosphere and oceans were undergoing a significant chemical transition"

Cheers,

DV
 
Come come boys , breaks over back to school .

its not for me to do research , I didn't call anyone a liar or make an unequivocal comment founded on rhetoric not fact .
 
Gerald,

Slow day at the orifice, whence the thread crap comes?

Joe / moderating
 
Gerald, with respect, Please stop being such a ass there is already a Mick on here and ,we don't need another substitute, I can assure you that most on here Value Ynwoan advice, considerable knowledge and experience in all things to do with HiFi and all of it's peripheries. Each should stick to his or her own trade.
To the OP as several people have already stated magnetic iron and now others have been around for a lot longer than Gerald he will eventually fail as we all will but your magnet will still be around and will out last us all.
oldie
 
here you go , software that can tell you -
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Characterising Lifecycle Behaviour Of Permanent Magnets Is Critical

Permanent magnet materials are now being used in many designs of new electrical machine applications, and a lot of this equipment will be expected to have long lifecycles

by Amanda Machado | Tuesday 17 December 2013


If performance and lifecycle targets are to be met, then detailed characterisation at the design stage using advanced electromagnetic and multiphysics simulation technology will be critical, according to Cobham Technical Services.

High field strength, rare earth permanent magnets are key components in many of the new electrical machine designs now appearing on the market. Typical long-life applications for such technology include wave and wind power generators, and the traction motors for hybrid and electric vehicles.

Simulation software already plays a vital role in the development of such machines by shortening design-to-manufacture times and reducing the number of test prototypes that need to be produced. However, many of the modelling approaches and design software tools currently used are unsuitable for capturing and characterising gradual degradation of magnetic performance over time – especially if this is due to a combination of factors.

A unique material model, incorporated in all transient solvers of Cobham's Opera software suite, provides the means of accurately predicting changes to magnetic performance during a specific machine's lifecycle – helping designers to build in safeguards and margins to ensure performance.

The magnetization and demagnetization solvers in Opera have been developed and improved over more than a decade. The two dimensional version of the software was originally designed for a specialist US manufacturer of rare earth magnets, and was intended to help maximise the field strength and directionality of permanent magnets by simulating and optimizing the entire material magnetization process. The solver was later enhanced to handle the demagnetizing effect of a strong opposing magnetic field, which – in the case of a generator, for example – could be introduced by an in-service fault condition such as a short-circuit on its output.

The latest versions of these modules allow the hysteresis loops of hard and soft magnetic materials to be modelled in considerable detail. In conjunction with Opera’s powerful multi-physics simulation capabilities – which will characterise a design concept's electromagnetic behaviour, including the influence of temperature and mechanical stress effects, for example – the demagnetization solver enables the effects of demagnetization caused by functional, operational and environmental conditions during an equipment's service life to be accurately evaluated.

Cobham has built up considerable expertise in helping designers to optimize the performance of electrical machines, and its Opera software is used by a broad base of companies worldwide to accelerate development and maximise performance of equipment, including permanent magnet (PM) generators and motors.

The software is also currently being used by a major new research project in the UK, which is investigating the technology that will be needed for the next generation of low carbon vehicles. A key part of this research will involve examining the factors that cause the performance of PM traction motors to deteriorate with age, with a view to developing better materials, motors or control techniques to overcome the problem. Although partial demagnetization of a motor's permanent magnets is believed to be responsible, at present it is not clear whether this is due to natural degradation, overheating caused by excessive power demands, temporary fault conditions that are rectified during the life of the vehicle, or inherent shortcomings in the design of the motor itself.

According to Chris Riley of Cobham, “The need to be able to accurately characterise the demagnetization of high field strength permanent magnets at any stage in their lifecycle, with a view to improving long term performance, has never been more acute. PM traction motors are a prime example; their environmental operating conditions and duty cycles are far more severe than those of most industrial or consumer applications, yet users expect them to last for the lifetime of the vehicle – up to 14 years – with little or no change in performance. And although wind power generators have a more consistent duty requirement, off-shore platforms will need to endure very hostile climatic conditions. They will also be required to have long design lives – of 20 to 25 years – which again raises concerns about magnet longevity.”

At present, most PM-based traction motors for hybrid and all-electric vehicles use neodymium-iron-boron magnets, but their magnetic field strength reduces with increasing temperature, and above about 220 degrees C the demagnetization effects can be irreversible. The amount of demagnetization depends on a number of factors, including the physical shape of the magnet and its magnetic circuit, as well as the grade of material and the shape of its magnetic characteristic.

Some designers are using neodymium-iron-boron magnets in which a small percentage of the neodymium is replaced with dysprosium to raise the coercivity and the temperature at which permanent demagnetization occurs. However, as Cobham's Dr Dan Ilea points out, “At present, nearly all dysprosium comes from China, and is mainly used for nuclear, laser and magnetic data storage applications. There is likely to be a severe shortfall of this element within a couple of years, especially if it is taken up by high volume industries like automobile manufacturing. It is therefore critical to maximise the life of neodymium-iron-boron magnets by designing electrical machines that are not susceptible to self-demagnetization.”
 
So putting a few Amps through the coil would wipe the magnet. Cartridges have to be one of the most stable uses of ferrite magnets, negligible reversal, no mechanical shock and room temperatures. The rubber suspension will perish or the wires fatigue first
 
Gerald, you really bored with your job today:(, if I found my old job that boring I would have changed it but then I suppose I was lucky lowish pay but very high reward.:)
oldie
 
Gerald, you really bored with your job today:(, if I found my old job that boring I would have changed it but then I suppose I was lucky lowish pay but very high reward.:)
oldie

Oldie , I appreciate your 2nd opinion perspective , but I was attacked for making what I considered to be a reasonable comment seeking clarification/confirmation , the rest flowed from the attack .
 


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