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Cycling log - random events in the day of a cyclist II

Anyway steering it back to bikes- If I were to be tempted to a modern plastic fantastic, how does the traditional horizontal steel framed geometry transfer across to the modern compact frame set? I think the Gazelle is a 21.5"/22" frame from memory and it is about the best fitting bike I've ever ridden ( I know frame size isn't everything) on both the hoods and drops, in fact I've never ridden in the drops as much as I do on this.

Obviously not much chance to get out and try tons of stuff or probably get a proper bike fit at the minute, I see modern bikes seem to more often be sized as S, M, L etc. From a quick glance I think I'd probably need a 54cm/M from most bike makers at 5'10/11 and 32 inside leg.

I'd also probably like something a little different, Cervelo or Wilier maybe, I don't like the look of most of the Spesh stuff- the Synapse looks OK but I hear nothing but complaints about Cannondale bottom brackets.
 
matt j said:
Anyway steering it back to bikes- If I were to be tempted to a modern plastic fantastic, how does the traditional horizontal steel framed geometry transfer across to the modern compact frame set? I think the Gazelle is a 21.5"/22" frame from memory and it is about the best fitting bike I've ever ridden ( I know frame size isn't everything) on both the hoods and drops, in fact I've never ridden in the drops as much as I do on this.

Obviously not much chance to get out and try tons of stuff or probably get a proper bike fit at the minute, I see modern bikes seem to more often be sized as S, M, L etc. From a quick glance I think I'd probably need a 54cm/M from most bike makers at 5'10/11 and 32 inside leg.

I'd also probably like something a little different, Cervelo or Wilier maybe, I don't like the look of most of the Spesh stuff- the Synapse looks OK but I hear nothing but complaints about Cannondale bottom brackets.
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Cannondale Caad13 or Supersix. Quite traditional looking in my view.

I have a Canyon SL & Specialized Tarmac both of which ride really well. Also have a Caad10.
 
stevec67 said:
And when you have left the house for exercise and food shopping have you looked at the people also out and thought "bloody hell, they must be a fit lot round here, or they are obese, becasue if all these people are doing "essential journeys" for exercise or shopping then they are either Olympic athletes or they never stop eating."

What I am saying is that it is all right for you to go out for exercise, work and food, same as it is me. However we all know that if that were the case the place would be nearly as quiet as Christmas Day. It's not.

In addition, if it were OK for people to be out normally provided they wore masks and exhibited social distancing then we would have fewer restrictions. It's not, as we all know masks and distancing are not of themselves controls, they are part of a raft of controls that together hopefully stop the spread but are individually not very effective. The best control is "stay at home"; other measures used when you go out are at best only mitigation. What's the best way to avoid being electrocuted in an electricity substation? Wear protective clothing, get training in safe handling of 33kV electricity? No, stay out of the substation. Put a bloody big fence round it. That way the only people inside it are the ones that really need to be there. Now we all know that it's not practical to but a barbed wire fence across my front door, but if we did it would be a better control than any amount of mask wearing and social distancing.

What we currently have is people wandering around the substation because they fancy a day out, but maybe this is OK because they are wearing rubber gloves and, well, we have told them to be careful.
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Christ, what is your problem?

You can go out to shop and exercise but those you see who don't fit your ideals of weight or worthiness should not?

Perhaps the fatties you decry are actually walking for exercise? How the hell would you know? Why are you so arrogant to presume you know anything about anyone?
 
matt j said:
Anyway steering it back to bikes- If I were to be tempted to a modern plastic fantastic, how does the traditional horizontal steel framed geometry transfer across to the modern compact frame set? I think the Gazelle is a 21.5"/22" frame from memory and it is about the best fitting bike I've ever ridden ( I know frame size isn't everything) on both the hoods and drops, in fact I've never ridden in the drops as much as I do on this.

Obviously not much chance to get out and try tons of stuff or probably get a proper bike fit at the minute, I see modern bikes seem to more often be sized as S, M, L etc. From a quick glance I think I'd probably need a 54cm/M from most bike makers at 5'10/11 and 32 inside leg.

I'd also probably like something a little different, Cervelo or Wilier maybe, I don't like the look of most of the Spesh stuff- the Synapse looks OK but I hear nothing but complaints about Cannondale bottom brackets.
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For a Specialized I suspect you could be either an M or an L so it's a bit of personal preference on the riding position. I'm a similar height and have had both sizes however the 54/M is what I've kept and that (a Roubaix) fits me like a glove. I think all my current road bikes are 54 or M.
 
SteveG said:
For a Specialized I suspect you could be either an M or an L so it's a bit of personal preference on the riding position. I'm a similar height and have had both sizes however the 54/M is what I've kept and that (a Roubaix) fits me like a glove. I think all my current road bikes are 54 or M.
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54 on Caad also. I am 6ft & ride a 57 on the Canyon & 56 on the Specialized & Cannondale.
 
Cheers. What are the Treks like? The Domane looks interesting, although from their sheet the sizing is a little odd compared with others.
 
There are loads of Canyons and Trek Domanes in our club (although the Specialized Roubaix was the single most popular bike) and the owners liked them. The Canyons are usually very good value, and they were the most popular manufacturer amongst our female members by a considerable margin.
 
Cav said:
Christ, what is your problem?

You can go out to shop and exercise but those you see who don't fit your ideals of weight or worthiness should not?

Perhaps the fatties you decry are actually walking for exercise? How the hell would you know? Why are you so arrogant to presume you know anything about anyone?
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No, and you can stop being an arse.
The point, as you well know when you are not trolling, is that if we have been asked to stay at home as far as is reasonably possible, and most of the shops, all the pubs and social spaces are shut and yet car traffic is at 80-90% of normal, then at least some of those people must be ignoring that advice. It isn't remotely arrogant to know that, it's a blindingly obvious observation.
 
Woodface said:
Yes, Aeroad’s do come up large. Friend is same height as you & rode a small; found it quite uncomfortable but think they have changed the geometry, less aggressive now.
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Yes I noticed the 73.5 degree seat tube angle, which is traditionally a bit slack for a full on road bike.
 
Seems like I touched a nerve somewhere by mentioning blokes in cabrios counting sheep :D.

FWIW I don't mind them doing whatever they are doing, as long as they drive considerately. Some of the lockdown rules are a bit daft, but I guess we know why we have to have them.

On the topic of Trek bikes: I have minimal experience of road bikes but thought my mate's Domane was pretty good on smooth roads. Pretty responsive to out of the saddle shenanigans, nimble handling, good riding position etc. Shockingly shite brakes though... I expect they can be had with hydraulic discs nowadays.
Preferable handling to my Boardman ADV9.0 which feels a bit long and has a tendency to flop into corners like old-fashioned MTBs did.


Question: Why are some road bike drive trains so noisy?
 
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