43 738 new cases reported today, 223 deaths and 828 further admissions.
43 738 new cases reported today, 223 deaths and 828 further admissions.
Have you found any data reporting how many of those cases/deaths/admissions are for unvaccinated people?
(I'm not just being lazy, I've looked and can't find anything...just wondering if you - or anyone else - had).
Have you found any data reporting how many of those cases/deaths/admissions are for unvaccinated people?
(I'm not just being lazy, I've looked and can't find anything...just wondering if you - or anyone else - had).
It's now published weekly and buried in the vaccine surveillance report,
Why is England driving the rise in UK Covid cases?
"As people drifted back to more normal routines, and students returned to schools and colleges with very few protective measures in place, the virus spread more swiftly – notably among unvaccinated secondary school pupils, who currently have the highest rates of infection in the country. The UK epidemic is now largely driven by infections in this age group"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/19/why-england-driving-rise-uk-covid-cases
It's now published weekly and buried in the vaccine surveillance report, which is possibly why were not getting aggregate reports any longer. This is the latest and the data are on pages 14 and 15.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-surveillance-report
Implement ‘plan B’ winter measures now or risk NHS crisis, Johnson warned
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...easures-now-or-risk-nhs-crisis-johnson-warned
@jon l
"When they use "per 100,000" to get the vaccinated/unvaccinated rate, I presume they are using "per 100,000 vaccinated"/"per 100,000 unvaccinated" respectively, so I'd imagine the gross numerical effect potentially arising from the skewed proportions in the total population would be mitigated."
Yes, you presume correctly. In absolute numbers, approx 80% of hospitalizations and 82% of deaths are for vaccinated people.
The below text from the report seems very relevant, both now and for what has gone before, particularly the last sentence:
"These data should be considered in the context of vaccination status of the population groups shown in the rest of this report. The vaccination status of cases, inpatients and deaths is not the most appropriate method to assess vaccine effectiveness and there is a high risk of misinterpretation. Vaccine effectiveness has been formally estimated from a number of different sources and is described earlier in this report.
In the context of very high vaccine coverage in the population, even with a highly effective vaccine, it is expected that a large proportion of cases, hospitalisations and deaths would occur in vaccinated individuals, simply because a larger proportion of the population are vaccinated than unvaccinated and no vaccine is 100% effective. This is especially true because vaccination has been prioritised in individuals who are more susceptible or more at risk of severe disease. Individuals in risk groups may also be more at risk of hospitalisation or death due to non-COVID-19 causes, and thus may be hospitalised or die with COVID-19 rather than because of COVID-19."
** Interpretation of the case rates in vaccinated and unvaccinated population is particularly susceptible to changes in denominators and should be interpreted with extra caution.
It's the cases data on page 13 of latest report that still puzzles me, not the hospitalisation and death data. The cases per 100,000 are higher for vaccinated above 40 and lower below. There's a ** under that table which doesn't seem to have a reference anywhere as follows:
** Interpretation of the case rates in vaccinated and unvaccinated population is particularly susceptible to changes in denominators and should be interpreted with extra caution.
What changes in denominators? Do they mean that the total number of unvaxed in the upper ranges (and the total number of unvaxed in the lower) are sufficiently small than when they are normalised to 100,000 one can no longer meaningfully compare to the other group?
Not much until there are more cases and more deaths.Gee...let me think... what will Boris do?
It’s crazy isn’t it? We still have a virus (well actually a nastier variant of it) that caused us to lock down the country for months on end and yet here we are fully back to normal with not even the most basic of preventative measures in place. Why the hell we didn’t vaccinate secondary school students over summer is beyond me…. anyway we didn’t and now schools are the breeding ground many of us knew they would be. The government (and others) arguing to the contrary was just completely bereft of logic!!