jimbob75
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As could all of the others, so the assertion is moot
Of course. That's why I'm not using those stats to try and make a point.
As could all of the others, so the assertion is moot
Of course. That's why I'm not using those stats to try and make a point.
Fair to say though that without context those figures are mood music.
For contrast, in May in UK there were 77,731 cases (all variants) and 246 deaths (all variants). If I have the right figures (from Daily summary | Coronavirus in the UK (data.gov.uk)), that's 0.3% death rate. That's down from April when it was 0.8%; further down from March when it was 1.7%; and further down from 3.9% in January and February.Here's an update on deaths from Delta from PHE
There have been 42 deaths in England of people who were confirmed as having the Delta variant of Covid-19 and who died within 28 days of a positive test. Of this number, 23 were unvaccinated, seven were more than 21 days after their first dose of vaccine, and 12 were more than 14 days after their second dose. I.e. Nearly 30% of these had received two doses
https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...08971c08d9a7a8#block-60c331258f08971c08d9a7a8
What's the reason given for the almost complete absence of mask wearing?
Moving round the ground - masks on. When seated, masks off.
Sorry can't agree with the logic - understand it might stop the beer flowing though Be careful tomorrow won't you, my brother was going today but decided against yesterday, he just had his 2nd dose this week. The game seems to be quite nicely set up if England bowl well this aft.
I am beginning to feel that is sensible. Assuming cases are increasingly less important per se and it's the undesirable consequences that matter, analysing the admissions and deaths, with the recent data I have, shows a large range of possibilities. There's too much noise in too small a data set. A week or perhaps two might make things clearer. I do acknowledge that government sources will have more comprehensive data so this caution may be misplaced.Interestingly there have been no recent infections at my daughters school when it was quite a thing earlier in the year.
Personally I would like the Govt to put it back by two weeks to buy some time for more jabs.
"Iterated analysis continues to show vaccine effectiveness against Delta is higher after 2 doses but that there is a reduction for Delta compared to Alpha. There is uncertainty around the magnitude of the change in vaccine effectiveness after 2 doses of Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine." [my emphasis]
Vaccination will just not keep up with this rate for a very considerable time, given the time that it takes to be effective.
Yes I remember that from last week. Put aside the fact that they don’t define vaccine effectiveness. (i.e. effectiveness against what?) Now why would there be uncertainty about AZ but not about Pfizer, given that so much AZ has been used in the UK? Can anyone think it through? I’m just not clear enough about the logic of the situation.
My primary conclusion is that the data does not support any particular conclusion yet. I guess you have a conclusion on the pessimistic end. And I am not saying that is wrong.John, I hope you're right but I think you're mistaken right now.
My primary conclusion is that the data does not support any particular conclusion yet. I guess you have a conclusion on the pessimistic end. And I am not saying that is wrong.