I agree, hence my reservation about groups at tennis courts.
Apparently they’re not going to ease outside restrictions, despite the low risk, because they don’t trust people to distinguish between outside and inside. They think we’re idiots.
OK, the news is getting slightly better, but relying on data that states both vaccinations needed to obtain said results does not equate to what happens with just one, as may be the case with adults in the UK by ‘June/July’
We are a fair way off all adults having both vaccinations, and even further off ‘normality’ being safe.
Trusting any member of the cabinet is not the best thing to go forward with IMO.
I'm staying well away from gyms for at least a year.
I reckon it’s schools only on March 8th, closely monitored and if no up turn outside sports like golf at the end of March.As Sean has posted, there’s plenty of evidence that even one dose is extremely effective. The over 50 and vulnerable groups will have been vaccinated by mid-April if the government target is met, and I’m sure most second doses for these groups will have been done by the summer. We should be in a decent position by then, with 99 per cent of all deaths and hospital admissions covered.
In terms of lockdown easing, I’m hoping for schools to go back from March 8 and quite a few outdoor activities to be relaxed where transmission has been shown to be low. Then hopefully retail, hairdressers and outdoor areas of pubs by April and indoor hospitality in May. Somewhere near normal after that then and some summer holidays to enjoy.
I’ll trust what a cabinet member says over someone on this forum.
There's some speculation that the stable figures are misleading, being the result of escalating and accelerating cases of the British variant offsetting falling numbers of the older variant. If that's true, we'll probably see another rise in the number of cases in early March as the newer variants multiply faster, and more confinement measures will be necessary (probably local ones at first, as we seem to be seeing in Nice).This COV|ID malarkey is just too confusing.
France. 36% British Variant. 5% SA or Brazil. Some nasty looking hot spots -- Dunkerque and now it looks like Nice isn't looking too nice either. They've decided to keep society relatively open till March 8 so that the people can get a bit of fresh air. Between now and March 8 is the half term there (it's staggered -- not all of France takes their school holidays at the same time.) So there's going to be a big mixing up of the population as they go on vacation.
The nationwide figures look so stable that some people have been questioning whether the British variant is really more contagious.
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/m...erence-de-presse-d-olivier-veran_4302107.html
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/m...n-des-vacances-scolaires-d-hiver_4299703.html
Get the boozers open and sod golf courses , ban the game forever.
I reckon it’s schools only on March 8th, closely monitored and if no up turn outside sports like golf at the end of March.
I doubt you’ll be in a pub before July.
Anyone who’d trust a cabinet minister on Covid is a gullible fool.
Get the boozers open and sod golf courses , ban the game forever.
Gyms are one of the safest places to be, less than 1% of all transmissions.I'm staying well away from gyms for at least a year. Living a somewhat isolated life I had a month's trial of a gym and caught a vomiting bug and flu within a fortnight. Couldn't have caught them anywhere else. A enclosed environment with everyone panting sounds like a great place to catch Covid. And then pass it on. Golf courses should be open. It's just a walk, isn't it. I'm looking forward to tennis courts being open but not to find groups of people gathered to play doubles (outgoing four in a huddle with incoming four).
Gyms are one of the safest places to be, less than 1% of all transmissions.
One thing I just heard on French TV was interesting, I’ve not checked to see if it’s true.
Apparently this winter has seen a dramatic reduction in flu and gastroenteritis, presumably because people are washing their hands and not getting close to each other.
But we have NOT seen a reduction in COVID. Why not?
The proposed answer was that flu and gastroenteritis viruses are very fragile, they don’t survive for long on surfaces, but COVID does.
And so, the suggestion is, people are picking them up from touching surfaces - and the obvious place is the supermarket trolley. The handles are touched by many people and they are not cleaned systematically.
I for one will be wiping mine down next time I go.
Yep, Google it. It is very easy to social distance in Gyms, they have taken preventive measures. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-54540188Do you have evidence for that? I’d have thought people over-exerting/hyperventilating in a closed environment and then sweating all over communal equipment was as close to a large human-scaled petri dish as one could get conceptually. Likely even worse than schools or pubs.
In Malaysia, gyms were involved in several clusters. Some group photos after sessions did not help.Do you have evidence for that? I’d have thought people over-exerting/hyperventilating in a closed environment and then sweating all over communal equipment was as close to a large human-scaled petri dish as one could get conceptually. Likely even worse than schools or pubs.
You assume that violent drinks and wife beaters are not drinking at home? I doubt you would favour all supermarkets are banned from selling booze?Very mature Playing devil's advocate I'd say that given the likelihood of the virus being transmitted in a crowded pub is far far greater than on a golf course if one of them has to be banned I'd be rooting for the pubs to go. Many just facilitate drinking to excess and all the violence and domestic abuse that comes with that so why not?
Source? What is the stat on pubs?Gyms are one of the safest places to be, less than 1% of all transmissions.