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Car park fine

Eyebroughty said:
I got done on the bridge at Berwick -upon-Tweed a few years ago.

Found a parking space at the end nearest the town, came back and found I had parking ticket, walked the length of the bridge to find a sign screwed to the bridge wall about 100 yards back up from where I parked that you could only read if you were bending down to read it.

Called my lawyer the next day, he said pay the fine, not worth the hassle and costs in time and money and the issues if you lose, which I will, he said.

Pay the fine and put it down to experience, if you lose as has been said the issues with credit scoring and possible higher costs are not worth it.

Am glad in some ways I don't drive any more.
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That's the sort of thing where bad publicity on social media is probably the only viable approach. Tell people you'll not visit Berwick again, and why. Make sure the council sees it. Sometimes getting the other side to make a gesture to offset the negative PR is your best hope.
 
Sue Pertwee-Tyr said:
That's the sort of thing where bad publicity on social media is probably the only viable approach. Tell people you'll not visit Berwick again, and why. Make sure the council sees it. Sometimes getting the other side to make a gesture to offset the negative PR is your best hope.
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I knew a guy who worked for that Council, I called him, he said, we get a load of calls about the same issue, nothing we can do about it.
 
Rodrat said:
The last thing to do is ignore their letters, they will take legal action. My daughter was advised by her teacher colleagues to do so and it ended up on the brink of court and cost her twice as much. This would have had a disastrous impact on her credit rating.They are the scum of the earth but the law now backs them.
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I received a penalty notice 5 years ago and ignored it. I received 4 other letters threatening debt-collectors and court action, which I also ignored.

They have 1 year left to take me to court if they wish (and I would probably settle if they lodged a claim) but so far ignoring them has worked.
 
Eyebroughty said:
I knew a guy who worked for that Council, I called him, he said, we get a load of calls about the same issue, nothing we can do about it.
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I'm sure there would be things they could do, if sufficiently motivated. If signage is inadequate, it might not meet a minimum standard. It's not for the likes of us to challenge that, but the authority that awards the parking contract, or has connections to the contract holder in some respect, surely they can.
 
Sue Pertwee-Tyr said:
I'm sure there would be things they could do, if sufficiently motivated. If signage is inadequate, it might not meet a minimum standard. It's not for the likes of us to challenge that, but the authority that awards the parking contract, or has connections to the contract holder in some respect, surely they can.
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While I agree with your thoughts often car parks put up parking signs that are in areas of the car park that if you park on one side it is unlikely you will know the signs exist.

I actually cannot recall where the parking signs in the local Asda are that tell you the time limits, however the health centre next door has a sign telling you that you should use the Asda car park and details the time limits.
 
SteveG said:
The "ignore them" advice still gets bandied about, despite high profile cases where it was proven to be a dangerous approach. A young lady from Dundee (which sounds like the start of a bad joke!) was bankrupted after listening to advice that MacDonalds couldn't do anything about her parking her car in their car-park every day when she went to work nearby. Wrong - she ended up with a court ordered fine of £24,500.
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She ended up £38k in debt, she was parking at her parents house but she had no right to park there so the parking company issued her with parking tickets (about 280 I think) and she just ripped them up then eventually they offered her a permit at a reduced rate and she refused then eventually they took her to court and she declared bankruptcy, she was the architect of her own misfortune through a large dose of hubris.

She's been pretty unlucky she ended up working for one of the airlines out Glasgow airport.

Lucky white heather as they say:D

https://www.scotsman.com/regions/du...woman-declared-bankrupt-ps37000-debts-2466346
 
Woodface said:
If you pay within 2 weeks you generally get a reduction. Pay & move on.
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My daughter, who is a doctor, got a parking ticket in the old Southern General Hospital carpark (now the QE teaching hospital in Govan) and the parking mob hounded her for about a year but I'm sure she never paid, they were hounding NHS staff who were trying to work in the hospital, no doubt my daughter probably just dumped her car to get to work but it's bad enough dealing with the sick and worrying about parking tickets.
 
Whenever I refuel a car, I pause before I squeeze the nozzle’s trigger and do a double check on whether the nozzle is diesel or petrol, and then what the car needs.
I’m the same with car parks. I don’t enter thinking it’s free, and when using apps to pay I check twice in my brain that I have the correct reg before typing AND confirming.

You watch, I’ll get it wrong in the next few days!
 
It's a Dundee Thing…
Indigo Services Limited runs the Dundee Ninewells Hospital car park. In September 2017 they took three nurses to court for fines relating mainly to overstaying at the car park. Nurse Julie Lindsay, a breast cancer specialist nurse, was held liable to pay £2,040 plus costs along with two other colleagues. After the written judgment was issued, Indigo Parks indicated that they now intended to pursue dozens of other nurses. At the time of writing, the nurses’ union is seeking an urgent meeting with NHS management.

The Position in England
Contrast this with Driver’s Legal Victory Is One in The Eye for Rogue Private Firms, The Guardian, 15 September 2017. Nicholas Bowen, Q.C., took an overnight nap in a motorway services car park. He exceeded the 2-hour limit, and a parking notice fine of £85 was imposed. Bowen defended the small claim, stating that the parking notices were in a different part of the car park and that the firm had no right to charge consumers for the use of a virtually empty car park. He was successful, but on closer examination, there is a good deal less to this than at first glance.

Parking Eye forgot to turn up at the County Court, so the judgement against them is in absence with none of the arguments decided.

So, what exactly is the position regarding parking fines or notices in Scotland and are there any practical steps you can take to minimise your risk?



https://www.accidentlawscotland.co.uk/blog/when-to-challenge-private-parking-charges.cfm
 
I just scraped a front alloy on a stupidly designed car par exit in Newcastle where it seems impossible to exit without hitting something. A complete kick in the cock.
 
There was a very tight multistorey car park in Wolverhampton that people moaned about, scraping their cars on the exit ramps. Some chap from the builders is supposed to have demonstrated that there was nothing wrong with it by swinging his Rolls Royce down through it. No marks.
Might be urban legend.
 
The only people who seem to do car parking spaces correctly is Costco. I guess they're designed for American sized trucks, even in the UK. By contrast the Waitrose carpark nearby is only ever half full, but with Range Rovers occupying every inch of the spaces.
 
JensenHealey said:
There was a very tight multistorey car park in Wolverhampton that people moaned about, scraping their cars on the exit ramps. Some chap from the builders is supposed to have demonstrated that there was nothing wrong with it by swinging his Rolls Royce down through it. No marks.
Might be urban legend.
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He probably had his chauffeur directing him from outside the car. I don’t see why they use vertical kerbs surely a sloping profile would be far better. This particular car par has a slight kink to the curbs on exit which seems a particularly bad design.
 
I could be wrong, but I suspect architects aren't queueing up to design car parks. So they probably get left to juniors, or technicians, and things like layout, radius of turns, height of kerbs, etc, are probably mostly sourced from data books that may be years out of date. So they don't do well with vehicles of modern length and girth, and wheel/tyre sizes. Not to mention that most car parks were probably designed and built in the seventies and eighties, when cars were narrower and shorter anyway. The 1970s vintage Rolls Royce Silver Shadow was about the same size (but somewhat narrower) as a current BMW 5 series.
 
Car parking firms are just a symptom of the rentier based economic model far too many places are heading to, they add nothing useful and just pi55 everyone off, it’s why we are getting our ar5es handed to us on a plate by the east, they concentrate on creating wealth not collecting it from others the west is turning into a Leachocracy and come the revolution when Europarks gets burnt down I am buying an extra large bag of popcorn.
 
Cav said:
I received a penalty notice 5 years ago and ignored it. I received 4 other letters threatening debt-collectors and court action, which I also ignored.

They have 1 year left to take me to court if they wish (and I would probably settle if they lodged a claim) but so far ignoring them has worked.
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Who from? The major parking companies are always keen to enforce penalty notices. Local authorities less so.
 
This will either make you laugh or cry (I promise it is true).

I was fined by Babergh district council for parking in a "free car park" (in Hadleigh, Suffolk) without displaying a ticket.
 
Joe Hutch said:
Yes. What we need is smaller cars. Tax the Chelsea tractors to buggery. ‘Do you live on a farm? No. So drive a car.’
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I agree. I drive a 5 series, it’s above average size but I do have two kids & needed a reasonably big car. It is low emissions though.
 
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