Where are you going shopping?This is where I get confused. Later today I will be popping out to the local shopping centre. I know that when I get out of my car in the car park, I will see lots of nice shiny cars. Twenty years ago half of them would have been rusty but today the cars tend to be bigger and better. The people walking to the shops will be dressed smart, they will walk into shops and buy goodies, they will pay for them and will appear to be happy, so it paints a picture of things going ok.
I do not see these "1 in 5" whose are living in destitution.
This is where I get confused. Later today I will be popping out to the local shopping centre. I know that when I get out of my car in the car park, I will see lots of nice shiny cars. Twenty years ago half of them would have been rusty but today the cars tend to be bigger and better. The people walking to the shops will be dressed smart, they will walk into shops and buy goodies, they will pay for them and will appear to be happy, so it paints a picture of things going ok.
This is where I get confused. Later today I will be popping out to the local shopping centre. I know that when I get out of my car in the car park, I will see lots of nice shiny cars. Twenty years ago half of them would have been rusty but today the cars tend to be bigger and better. The people walking to the shops will be dressed smart, they will walk into shops and buy goodies, they will pay for them and will appear to be happy, so it paints a picture of things going ok.
I do not see these "1 in 5" whose are living in destitution.
I thought you wanted to discus your love for your fellow human beings, and sought common purpose with them for that cause in strength and unity.I do not know your personal circumstances but by the amount of time you spend here I would guess you are a retiree. If that is the case you have already made your bed and you now sleep in it. Wise investment is your only choice to increase your wealth but there is an element of risk.
If you are working, stop spending time here and work harder.
The UK has a low level of productivity so it needs to work harder. I worked hard, I am not boasting as I did work hard and got rewarded accordingly and everyone else can do the same.
However I am convinced that most people in the UK are doing ok.
If you are in a nice affluent area of Surrey (I lived in Guildford for may years) then I'm sure things look quite rosy at the moment.
As I have stated a few times, I actually lived in Rochdale for 4 long and dreary years and yes it was an awful place full of people who seemed to have no sense of of direction and often used the expression that the country is going to the dogs.That’s because you live in relatively affluent Swindon. Try visiting Rochdale or Oldham, I’ll take you to a few places. You can meet some of the kids I work with who would tell you stories that would make you weep. But no, it’s fine, we’re all doing fine and can afford a Porch if we want one. The difference between the North and South in terms of affluence is why Brexit happened and why the shit will increasingly hit the fan until the wealth gap is closed. Tories going to Tory I suppose
That doesn't paint a picture of 'Things going ok' really does it! I lived in Guildford about 25 years ago for a few years, then again later, moved away about 10 years ago, it looked pretty reasonable when I left, but I guess cracks were beginning to show in the town centre.My parents live in Guildford so I visit a couple of times each year. For the first ten years or so after I left it stayed fairly nice. Now it has changed. People look scruffy. Restuarants that used to be a bit up market have been replaced with generic chains. There are a lot of empty shops. It's starting to remind me of Doncaster. Yes there are lots of shiny cars but I don't like driving on those roads. I spoke to my mum yesterday - not my dad - and she told me that my dad's hearing aids have failed and that he has been told that it will be 4 months before he will get an appointment for new ones.
Depending on how you define “most” and “OK” you might have a point. But the indisputable fact is that for half a century inequality has grown, the NHS has become more and more defunded and regulations to protect pay and conditions have been more and more deregulated.However I am convinced that most people in the UK are doing ok.
As you have graciously conceded that I might of a point, I think it would be wise to leave it there.Depending on how you define “most” and “OK” you might have a point. But the indisputable fact is that for half a century inequality has grown, the NHS has become more and more defunded and regulations to protect pay and conditions have been more and more deregulated.
growing inequality, apart from the social and moral injustice, is also economically destabilising.
We are a very rich country but we behave as if there is no money. Such behaviour is bad for the economy, bad for social unity, bad for the NHS, bad for any sort of growth and bad for anything progressive.
Even if most people are ok, we are choosing a direction of travel that can only shrink that okness, and not to expand it
This is classic victim-blaming stuff. Your Rochdale people lived in a place with no money, no investment and no hope. No wonder they were dreary, and decades of working and striving, and getting knocked back had taught them that they couldn't improve their lot in any meaningful sense. This is what happens when the capital draws everything to itself. If you continually smack a puppy, the dog it grows into will be cowed and joyless.As I have stated a few times, I actually lived in Rochdale for 4 long and dreary years and yes it was an awful place full of people who seemed to have no sense of of direction and often used the expression that the country is going to the dogs.
I then moved south to Leamington Spa in 1976 and it was a breath of fresh air. People were positive, ambitious and got things done.
Later I moved to Swindon where things were even more dynamic and when Honda closed down, the people who left either retired early, set up their own business or just got another job. Today no one even remembers Honda, it is now forgotten. The factory is in the process of being demolished and fulfilment warehouses are expected to be built in less than 18 months. That will create 7000 new well paid jobs. Swindon was chosen because of its track record. It has built aircraft, trains and cars and now has ambition to become the largest distribution centre in the UK. Ambition breeds success and that is the lesson that needs to be learned.
My parents live in Guildford so I visit a couple of times each year. For the first ten years or so after I left it stayed fairly nice. Now it has changed. People look scruffy. Restuarants that used to be a bit up market have been replaced with generic chains. There are a lot of empty shops. It's starting to remind me of Doncaster. Yes there are lots of shiny cars but I don't like driving on those roads. I spoke to my mum yesterday - not my dad - and she told me that my dad's hearing aids have failed and that he has been told that it will be 4 months before he will get an appointment for new ones.
You might have a point depending on definitions, what I have tried to do is to provide some definitions.As you have graciously conceded that I might of a point, I think it would be wise to leave it there.
His mantra, like all wealthy Tories is,
I worked hard and am wealthy.
If you aren’t wealthy it’s down to your own fecklessness.
We’ve been reading it from him for decades on here.
Because you can’t see it doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.This is where I get confused. Later today I will be popping out to the local shopping centre. I know that when I get out of my car in the car park, I will see lots of nice shiny cars. Twenty years ago half of them would have been rusty but today the cars tend to be bigger and better. The people walking to the shops will be dressed smart, they will walk into shops and buy goodies, they will pay for them and will appear to be happy, so it paints a picture of things going ok.
I do not see these "1 in 5" whose are living in destitution.
Sorry your Lordship, but no.This is why the Tories get in, people like you see their little bubble, see themselves and their friends are alright, and have not got the conscience to think about the ‘little’ people.
This is sadly true.Sorry your Lordship, but no.
The Tories get in because the population continue to vote for them.
There's 1 million Micks.
There's 59 million of us.
We could flip this overnight, yet those who have got the least, relentlessly vote in those who have the most.