Heckyman
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The room was too small / I was too close to the 40’s so the bass didn’t really integrate well — hard to conclude anything definitive. I’d love to hear 40’s in my room too, also the active versions of each model…
ATC SCM 19 v2
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Hoopsontoast
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This was pretty much my conclusion when comparing the mk1 SCM19 to the mk1 SCM40. I always found the SCM7 & SCM10 with the SCM19s the best in the range, with the SCM11 and SCM40 not worth the upgrade over the smaller models, IMO. To qualify that I've not heard any of the current range with the ATC tweeter.
Allaboutmusic
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Interesting reading comparisons between the 19s and 40s. Seems like 19s may be a bit of a sweet spot in the range providing your room isn’t too big? Which is good as the 40s are currently outside of my budget.
Is there a huge difference in presence between the 40s and 19s?
Is there a huge difference in presence between the 40s and 19s?
JezmondTutu
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Maybe. I don’t think any of the speakers are a hard load for amps just not very sensitive. A 3 way speaker probably gives the drive units an easier time especially in midband areas?
Who knows or cares as long as they sound good?
Heckyman
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Yes -- if presence is a concern it might be better to get larger speakers.
Heckyman
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As an example, if you play some deadmau5 (electronica/techno!) e.g. "some chords" on the 19's you get an incredible sense of the beat, even without the visceral impact that you'd have in a club.
With larger speakers, you might get more impactful drums and bass, but you may also lose some sense of the crispness of the beat.
All depends what you're sensitive to and what you're willing to live with.
With larger speakers, you might get more impactful drums and bass, but you may also lose some sense of the crispness of the beat.
All depends what you're sensitive to and what you're willing to live with.
Heckyman
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They don't like class D at all e.g. purifi Eigentakt - sounds terrible! I thought it was me, but I've since read similar reports.
John Phillips
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Yes, AIUI. From ATC's FAQs (FAQ no.7):
"... we recommend amplifiers with a minimum power output of 75W per channel into 8 ohms. It should be noted that all ATC loudspeakers have a nominal impedance of 8 ohms with a typical minimum of 5.5 ohms. As a result, they do not demand as much current as lower impedance loudspeakers and present an easier ‘load’ to an amplifier. This, coupled with the fact that as you drive a speaker with more power, the voice coil temperature will increase, in turn increasing the impedance, an amplifier with a higher power output into 8 ohms is likely to give better results than an amp with a lower 8 ohm power rating but that can double it’s power into 4 ohms."
The OP's Exposure 3010S2D integrated, rated at 110 watts looks fine unless the system is in a very big room (see FAQ No.5).
JezmondTutu
pfm Member
If I play Deadmau5, it sounds like
I’m in a club! Cannot imagine what the bigger ATC’s would do.
PhilofCas
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Just been over to Spotify to see who Deadmau5 were, whoa, that’s serious stuff.
In view of your liking Deadmau5, I think you might like Acid Washed, who I came across a few year back : https://open.spotify.com/album/3Odg8EChoC6JCiTgfW0qPp?si=S8-yccBYQseXC1f1PyuMzg one of my best finds on Spotify, played this album lots, you may know them already, enjoy!
JezmondTutu
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I don’t go out my way to listen to them but I like Some Chords and Raise Your Weapon. Was into drum and bass first time round.
Musicraft
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Yes, there is. With all things being equal SCM40’s with the ‘eerie’ and uncanny quality of the Soft Dome mid range driver in combination with the dedicated LF driver offer far greater weight, depth, scale, speed and punch.
Fwiw, over the last sixteen years I don’t recall anyone choosing passive or actives SCM19’s over SCM40’s.
Musicraft
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Some of our reference tracks can shut down most amplifiers and active speakers and in comparison make deadmau5 a walk in the park which is no mean feat btw.
Just to prove there are no absolutes in hifi, I moved originally from passive SCM40 mk1 to SCM19v2 and far preferred the SCM19. Now with SHL5Plus anniversaries, I slightly miss those SCM19s. Perhaps they were just perfect for my room.
If you're specifically asking about room filling, either of the two speakers is capable of going plenty loud enough for me in a room a little bigger than you have specified.
Sean K
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I remember very clearly how pleasantly shocked I was by the rimshots and the kick when I plugged my passive 40s in for the first time, playing massive Attack's Angel, wow...
And all over again when I did the same with the active 50s
Allaboutmusic
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How large is your room? Do you notice much difference between the 19s and shl5 anniversaries in terms of pressurising the room?
JezmondTutu
pfm Member
The mk2’s are supposed to be better though aren’t they?
If I’d decided to stick with passive, I’d definitely have gone Mk2 SCM19’s. Mk2 active 40’s are awesome though, cannot imagine changing them for a long time - if ever!