richardg
Admonishtrator
Goldfinger
Another problem for Boeing 737 Max
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Seeker_UK
Feelin' nearly faded as my jeans
Browntrouser, more like.
Cheese
Bitter lover
As you command.
gez
pfm Member
"In 2013, over 5,580 Boeing 737s were operated by more than 342 airlines in 111 countries, which represented more than 25% of the worldwide fleet of large jet airliners"
"As of June 2021, there were 9,315 Boeing 737s in service"
Far more easily said than done.
Boeing 737 - Wikipedia
gez
pfm Member
Very much depends on what site you're using. Some give such information, others don't. So there's no guarantee you'll know, unless you specifically use a booking site that does show the information, which may not be the cheapest ticket available.
CageyH
pfm Member
I know…"In 2013, over 5,580 Boeing 737s were operated by more than 342 airlines in 111 countries, which represented more than 25% of the worldwide fleet of large jet airliners"
"As of June 2021, there were 9,315 Boeing 737s in service"
Far more easily said than done.
Boeing 737 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
wulbert
pfm Member
"Downfall" The case against Boeing.
This Netflix documentary made me sceptical of Boeing's attitude to safety. When employees who raise safety concerns are told to STFU by senior management, it's not good.
This Netflix documentary made me sceptical of Boeing's attitude to safety. When employees who raise safety concerns are told to STFU by senior management, it's not good.
gez
pfm Member
Does anybody actually believe the likes of Airbus etc don't have exactly the same attitude as Boeing?
Airbus incident list:
I get the feeling people here don't realise just how frequent "incidents" involving commercial passenger planes are.
Airbus incident list:
I get the feeling people here don't realise just how frequent "incidents" involving commercial passenger planes are.
CageyH
pfm Member
Are you being serious with your opening statement?Does anybody actually believe the likes of Airbus etc don't have exactly the same attitude as Boeing?
Airbus incident list:
I get the feeling people here don't realise just how frequent "incidents" involving commercial passenger planes are.
gez
pfm Member
What evidence do you have that they don't?
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
I have zero loyalty to them (at the moment) but cultures can be changed, suppliers can be put right or changed, individuals can be educated, single points of failure can be sorted out.
And, again, until the root cause has been found, blaming Boeing might be a little premature.
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
I’ll see your astonishment, and raise you:
And that was NOT down to Boeing.
Aloha Airlines Flight 243 - Wikipedia
Linear
Active Member
Apparently the max is aerodynamically unstable. It is fitted with bigger heavier engines than it was designed for. That has shifted the centre of gravity to the rear, making it prone to stalling. That's why the anti stalling system that caused the loss of the two aircraft was fitted.
I wouldn't want to fly on one.
I wouldn't want to fly on one.
Tony L
Administrator
I’ll see your astonishment, and raise you:
And that was NOT down to Boeing.
Aloha Airlines Flight 243 - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
Good grief. Remind me never to get on an aeroplane ever again.
cctaylor
pfm Member
This morning I saw a video on my Facebook feed criticising the 737 MAX 10. Because it's 66 inches longer than the MAX 9 Boeing are having to play games with the design to prevent tail strikes. Apparently the main undercarriage legs lengthen at rotation and as a result they been re-engineered to shorten as they retract to fit into the existing undercarriage bays.
I felt it was really a knock the MAX post. However it goes some way to show how hard Boeing is working to wring everything they can out of the 737 design and flight crew qualifications.
If 15 years ago Boeing had bitten the bullet and started with a clean sheet design they probably would have and aircraft that would be better than the Airbus 320 series. Mind you if the corporate culture we have read about was still the same we could simply be looking at other design and manufacturing issues.
I felt it was really a knock the MAX post. However it goes some way to show how hard Boeing is working to wring everything they can out of the 737 design and flight crew qualifications.
If 15 years ago Boeing had bitten the bullet and started with a clean sheet design they probably would have and aircraft that would be better than the Airbus 320 series. Mind you if the corporate culture we have read about was still the same we could simply be looking at other design and manufacturing issues.
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
Don’t be silly. I always say to friends and family before they set off on a forrun holiday “Remember, your plane probably won’t crash n burn.
Cheese
Bitter lover
I don’t know. When you look at the technical evolution every car model goes through from the day of its launch until the end of production say seven years later, it is hardly conceivable that an aircraft is perfect from day one. It can already be very good, but expecting perfection from the onset is not realistic.
Of course many backup systems and procedures help keeping the number of incidents as low as possible. I wouldn’t want to hear of all the incidents happening every day on planes around the world, I bet that Airbus etc. also experience their frightening moments, but currently the focus is on the max only.
Of course many backup systems and procedures help keeping the number of incidents as low as possible. I wouldn’t want to hear of all the incidents happening every day on planes around the world, I bet that Airbus etc. also experience their frightening moments, but currently the focus is on the max only.
hifinutt
hifinutt
I am going to get cagey to look over the plane next time i use TUI
CageyH
pfm Member
Shortening mechanisms on landing gear is nothing new.