per-Sony-fied
Me in another jacket
WOWZER, are the numbers counting down rather than going up
They must be picking random ones from a pile.
A thread for forthcoming vinyl releases...
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They must be picking random ones from a pile.Some talk on discogs of dished copies. Mine looked flat but haven't got a turntable yet so can't tell.WOWZER, are the numbers counting down rather than going up
Also someone there said they got copy no 472 in early Feb. They must leave the factory boxed in multiples of 25 or 50 and I guess which you get depends on which box they take it out of. Is the Rhino 2012 well regarded?
per-Sony-fied
Me in another jacket
It has been said (from Youtube video's) that this nearly matches the quality of this Rhino at a lower price. I've no experience tho' of it's quality.
Tony L
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Interesting from my perspective as it suggests the UK 1st is a little mellower than the US (mine hasnāt got the quotation marks on the cover, but it is the same matrix).
It would be fascinating to line them all up for a listen including the UK 12ā singles (Iāve got both). They donāt sound different in intent to my album to my ears, same basic eq, just louder and more kick as youād expect from a 12ā 45.
mikechadwick
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My copy is number 2017! It arrived 20th January. Totally random by the look of things.
Tony L
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FWIW thereās never any correlation between limited edition number and the order a record came off the press as the sleeves and vinyl are made at different places and just assembled pretty randomly as the sleeves come out of the shipping cartons. The only times there can be a win with a low number is with signed and hand-numbered stuff as you often get a much better set of signatures at the start of the run than at the end when everyone is tired and bored sick doing it. Iāve not analysed this to any great extent, but Iād have expected around #20 of say a run of 500 to get the best signatures as the artist will have relaxed into the swing of it, but wonāt be bored yet! The collector market seems always to value low though. I get that with say a White Album which was numbered into the hundreds of thousands, but with properly limited stuff (e.g. an edition of a few hundred) each number is just as rare as the next.
per-Sony-fied
Me in another jacket
WOW. That's a poor show for someone who lives in the States.
Yank
Bulbous Also Tapered
I didn't place my order particularly early.
david ellwood
Kirabosi Kognoscente
Subharmonicon
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Just saw the RSD list, noticed the buena vista social club is being done (again) 25th anniversary masters (done already) extra tracks (done already) oh but now its on gold vinyl. .... RSD is beginning to be a cash grab joke. Im finding it increasingly harder to take it seriously. Its not really helping the independents anymore as they have to buy so much stock and then they don't sell a lot of it so it lies around in various RSD year dated boxes on sale. I have friends that own record stores that have now opted out of RSD. Sorry for my Sunday morning rant guys, apologies if you love RSD.
blossomchris
I feel better than James Brown
Beth Gibbons new album May17. Heard a couple of tracks and took a punt and pre-ordered
Tony L
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Not forthcoming as Iām listening to it now, but Can Live Paris ā73 is worth a listen. Not the best sound quality, though it seems to get better as it progresses, but prime-Damo-era Can nonetheless. Mono, very limited dynamically, nothing like the slam of others in the series, but musically it is excellent and as ever with Can is mainly free-form improvisation/jamming. One for the real Can fans, but that should be everyone.
PS Given less than ideal sound quality and the fact theyāve had to split the first 36 minute track over two sides the CD may be the better option here (Amazon) and is certainly cheaper. It is decent bootleg quality, no more. Musically amazing though. They were a hell of a live band!
PS Given less than ideal sound quality and the fact theyāve had to split the first 36 minute track over two sides the CD may be the better option here (Amazon) and is certainly cheaper. It is decent bootleg quality, no more. Musically amazing though. They were a hell of a live band!
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Tony L
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Just to add the sound quality of this one really is grim, if anything it gets worse as they get louder. Musically stunning, but it will knock many Ā£thousands off your hi-fi! Such a shame as the performance is amazing. From a technical perspective the mic sounds fixed, it isnāt moving around in someoneās jacket in the audience, but it is clearly compressing, even distorting at times and I suspect the tape machine had an auto-level enabled as there is some obvious āduckingā which just kills dynamics. It would likely sound amazing on a little Roberts radio or whatever, but my huge Lockwoods lay it bare. It sounds like someone has left a clock radio between the speakers!
PS Iām listening to the closing track, Vitimin C (one of the very recognisable songs, most are more abstracted jams) and it is such a great version. So annoying the recording quality is so poor.
ā¦.and it just clicks off before the end. I guess they ran out of tape!
PS Iām listening to the closing track, Vitimin C (one of the very recognisable songs, most are more abstracted jams) and it is such a great version. So annoying the recording quality is so poor.
ā¦.and it just clicks off before the end. I guess they ran out of tape!
wezzywest
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Which of the Live albums would you say are the best sound quality, I have three studio albums and fancy a live one.
Cheeers.
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Tony L
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The sound quality of all the preceding ones is good, they have a real power and heft to them. It sounds like you are at a good gig, e.g. there is a PA system thwack to the drums etc. Iād personally take either of the triples; Brighton or Stuttgart over Cuxhaven just on the fact they are the full thing and unedited and have far more space to breathe. They are all really good albums and surprised me as I view 1976 as well past their prime, but these albums reverse that and show they were still knocking the ball out of the court live, even if it was a very different thing. In many ways these sound like mid-70s Miles Davis, hardly any recognisable songs, just extended visceral funk grooves and improvisation. These are amongst my favourite Can albums. I only wish Paris ā73 was even half as good sonically.
PS I think if I had to pick one Iād go with Stuttgart as it was the first released, so one would assume the bands first choice, plus I think the orange vinyl may be better than the gold of Brighton, though in fairness that sounds great too.
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wezzywest
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Thanks for that Tony, really appreciate it. I will have a look for them. Cheers.
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Seanm
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Same, Stuttgart (especially) and Brighton are awesome, wish Iād gone for the vinyl. Cuxhaven merely pretty good.
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wezzywest
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Rarewaves Ebay store are currently selling the triple vinyl for Ā£17.49 including postage.