The way you write this sentence makes it look like you are almost waiting for dubious illiteral views that you can rip to bits.PS If you bring dubious illiberal views here I will rip them to bits. Every time. I will not host anything I view as bigoted. This is all covered in the site AUP. Live with it or go. I don’t really care. No other choice on the table.
The fact that societal wrongs exist doesn't mean people claiming to be against them cannot simultaneously be abusive.
The way you write this sentence makes it look like you are almost waiting for dubious illiteral views that you can rip to bits.
If it's necessary, it isn't abuse. It is not necessary to run a college professor out of town because you didn't like something he said. Neither is it necessary to cancel business contracts over something nasty the owner's daughter said years ago without his knowledge. Those incidents, and others like them, are examples of abuse.Absolutely, and some times it is absolutely necessary.
As one often banned for far less controversial views than are allowed in this thread, I would disagree.PFM is a tightly moderated, homogeneous, middle class, genteel corner of the internet. The idea that people feel intimidated into silence here is odd. Are such people scared of their local librarian?
The fact that societal wrongs exist doesn't mean people claiming to be against them cannot simultaneously be abusive. Also, a person can be right in some matters and wrong in others. Hell, once in a while I even agree with the Pope.
As one often banned for far less controversial views than are allowed in this thread, I would disagree.
There's also (more than) a hint of ageism going on in some of the discussions, here and elsewhere; 'these guys aren't just white, they're old'.
As one often banned for far less controversial views than are allowed in this thread, I would disagree.
It is not necessary to run a college professor out of town because you didn't like something he said.
I've never heard of any of them, but a quick Google finds this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Harris
'Glenn Greenwald has claimed that "[Harris] and others like him spout and promote Islamophobia under the guise of rational atheism." Greenwald claimed that Harris' Islamophobia is revealed by his statements such as: "the people who speak most sensibly about the threat that Islam poses to Europe are actually fascists", and "[t]he only future devout Muslims can envisage — as Muslims — is one in which all infidels have been converted to Islam, politically subjugated, or killed."[60]
Harris has criticized the way the term Islamophobia is commonly used.[61] "My criticism of Islam is a criticism of beliefs and their consequences, but my fellow liberals reflexively view it as an expression of intolerance toward people",[62] he wrote following a disagreement with Ben Affleck in October 2014 on the show Real Time with Bill Maher. Affleck had described Harris' views on Muslims as "gross" and "racist", and his statement that "Islam is the Mother lode of bad ideas" as an "ugly thing to say."[63][64]'
We are now seriously discussing - for days - if an episode of student anger and faculty conflict in a small college (Olympia, WA...storied location) is indicative of racialized totalitarianism engulfing civilization through the trojan horse of BLM movement.
1. I don't think Russian GRU throwing an American election is a tedious topic...especially a few month out of the one coming up.3 things
1) lame-ass attempt at humour
if you think 4 days is bad, over in the trump thread, someone just prolonged russiagate tedium well into the end of YEAR 4.
2) forum etiquette
what you are doing here verges on what is called "thread crap". if you don;t like what people are talking about or it doesn't interest you, don't belittle them for it. just stay away.
3) collective perceptions and cultural symbols
you could present george floyd as a two-bit criminal who is hardly worthy of attention or you can recognize the powerful symbolic meaning of what took place and how it tied together a bunch of important social problems worth talking about for a whole lot of people.
You’ll notice, I hope, that I have made no comment on the professor’s sacking at all as I simply don’t have sufficient information to make that call (the Huff Post article doesn’t cover it and the YouTube video is clearly one-sided revisionism).