He certainly is.
Winter election III
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Tony L
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Though he is right about the vacuous lying untrustworthy piece of Trumpian shit that is Boris Johnson, and that is all that matters at present!
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35451
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Who cares ?
FireMoon
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That really is one of the most asinine comments ever on this forum. You'd have no problems then with someone taking out the entire Tory cabinet as the law no longer matters?
Seanm
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Another one nation Tory here I see.
Absolutely. Gramsci, Clarke, Heseltine, Blair, Brown, Major, Dimblebys, Ashdown, Toynbee(s), etc. You don't notice it because it's been a slow process.
cooky1257
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Ein Tory Reich surely?
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Lol. Berk
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What are you going on about?
Seanm
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You can’t both be right.
Dave H.
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Are you citing all those people as examples of cultural Marxists, or at least agents of cultural Marxism?
Seanm
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Ah... Parody account! Had me going.
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Left lather levels appear to be at frenzy rate.
Watch the blood pressure folks, or there will be little left for the next phases of outrage at
Oh I see, anyone disagreeing, mocking or challenging the extreme left so prevalent here, is, by default, a Nazi/Tory.
What clarity of vision. How incisive. Of course, that’s it. And it must be true, as the cronies say it’s so. As do the academics apparently.
I do look fwd to the “a thread to catalogue the U turns, lies, blah blah of Tory blah. “.
You really have no idea who is voting for whom. Insulting folk helps no one.
Watch the blood pressure folks, or there will be little left for the next phases of outrage at
Oh I see, anyone disagreeing, mocking or challenging the extreme left so prevalent here, is, by default, a Nazi/Tory.
What clarity of vision. How incisive. Of course, that’s it. And it must be true, as the cronies say it’s so. As do the academics apparently.
I do look fwd to the “a thread to catalogue the U turns, lies, blah blah of Tory blah. “.
You really have no idea who is voting for whom. Insulting folk helps no one.
Well, obviously I'm sorry to confuse you. My central and very general point is that historical perspective puts things in a different light, to the extent that many of the attitudes to the EU, etc. currently considered 'correct', "progressive" and fashionable were originally held, not that long ago, by people (such as Mosely) who were actually pretty extreme. It's easy to forget that "fascist" was not always an insult -- Mosely's original party called itself the "British Union of Fascists" in the 30s -- it was at least an honest label. You wouldn't have agreed with him on various race-related issues of course, and I'd join you on that -- and in fact I personally would be against him on virtually everything (unlike Michael Foot, who apparently called him "the best Prime Minister we never had", or some such). Yes, it's confusing. You see how history changes how you see things?
It occurs to me also that Mosely actually had far less practical motivation for his anti-semitism than does the current Labour Party, as unlike them he didn't have a muslim block vote to retain, so on balance he was probably the more evil, but it's a close run thing.
You're probably right about "Prevent". I don't know enough about it to comment.
It was a fine statement, I think. I cannot see anything particularly "right-wing" about it, it looks to me like common sense. Particularly as it emphasised Europe purely as a geographical patchwork of independent states, rather than some supra-national institution. We share much culture with geographical Europe, and that statement encapsulated that. Other regions of the world have similar shared values & culture.
Woodwork? Anything that emerges from that has probably always been there -- you just didn't notice it, so you maybe assumed that everyone around you was 'on message'. One thing that's become clear over the last few years is that if people feel a burning anger over something, you won't necessarily know, but eventually they will express it, and the longer it takes before that happens, the bigger the resulting shock as felt by those privileged by the status quo. Like East Germany in 1989.
Wipe that screen, Tony!
To varying extents, and generally overall, yes. Forgot Olly Robbins though. Him too. Especially him.
Dave H.
Revolutionary relativist
Haha, how wonderful! A bona fide nutcase.
Give my regards to the next meeting of the ‘violence aside, maybe Breivik had a point’ loony society.
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