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Winter election III

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Nick_G, Nov 30, 2019.

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  1. Nick_G

    Nick_G pfm Member

    What about here which is basically a safe Tory seat? Tactical voting is useless, so voting Labour would probably make no difference. I might as well go with the party whose policies appeal to me most, which is Green.
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  2. Alex S

    Alex S carbon based lifeform

    I live in a fairly safe Labour seat and would also like to vote Green but will vote Labour just in case.
  3. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    That’s what I’m planning to do in a very safe (58% in 2017, Con 28%)) Labour seat. The outcome is certain, so I may as well help the Greens save their deposit and impact the national vote-share figures slightly. I think this is the first time we’ve had a Green to vote for, so I plan to encourage them.
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  4. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    the Lib Dems will be happy to step in. Article 50? What article 50?
  5. Dave***t

    Dave***t Revolutionary relativist

    Yep, in fact one striking thing is that much of it seems to be on just one page of their manifesto! Check it out, page 48.

    Three things raised here all on that one page, so far.
  6. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

  7. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    Well, this is all lovely. Recent visit to the NE to see a relative (a slightly lapsed Labour activist) confirms my suspicion that people are feeling 'enabled' to behave like racist morons. This is very sad to say the least.

    I am rather angry about the throng of JC supporters on twitter, one of which said he was 'a hero of the ages' & no one could have 'withstood what he has in the last 4 years'. FFS, Attlee fought in the 1st World War, Wilson withstood a coup & kept us out of Vietnam, Brown was ridiculed for having one eye, etc, etc.

    I am voting Labour in this election but will not support them in future with Corbyn as leader; he is absolutely useless. I don't know who else is on the horizon but am comforted by the fact that I'd never heard of Corbyn either. Surely there has to be someone better?
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  8. Fatmarley

    Fatmarley pfm Member

    I doubt he'll be doing it for much longer at his age anyway.
  9. eternumviti

    eternumviti Bloviating Brexiter

    Quite a wide spread of reasons for being 'a hero of the ages' with those two representing (presumably) the poles, or the apex and the nadir of heroisms.
  10. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    Yes quite, I feel a lack of perspective from the JC frothers. As an aside, if you do appoint an anti establishment leader (if that's what he is) then it should be no surprise if has a hard time from the establishment.

    I think McDonnell has massively improved, comes across as quite likeable, someone you could share a pint with (sorry horrible term) whereas JC would probably bore you do death about the time he went to Nicaragua.
  11. Rockmeister

    Rockmeister pfm Member

    last 7 words redundant:)
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  12. FireMoon

    FireMoon pfm Member

    Corbyn worms hisway under people of certain ages skin cos, in the end, he's the person they and many of us wanted to be when we reached his age only, and wholly understandably, most sold out to one degree or another for a myriad of "practical" reasons. Every time they see him, he reminds them of their own failure, so they act out and project rather than admit "we bottled it".

    He was never on the extreme, unlike the Andrew Marr, Michael Portillo style communist and other converts to Torydom, he was just your utterly boring middle of the road democratic socialist who stuck up for his constituents and he is that, utterly boring however genuine, bloke. His other half is a formidable person in her own right, which is yet another reason he's hated by the political classes.

    Now you can squawk all you like and make all the excuses you wish, there's a deep truth in that and I'm one myself who feels like I could have been, a "better person".
  13. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Waiting for the streetcar..

    There are a number of reasons I am not a Corbyn fan. I can assure that one of them is not that I wish I was more like him.

    If it worked like that, I would hate Ron Jeremy... :p
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  14. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    Couldn't be further from the truth as far as I'm concerned.
  15. palacefan

    palacefan pfm Member

    Neither the Tories, Labour or Liberal Dems have a leader, Corbyn's political life is that of a protester.
  16. Fatmarley

    Fatmarley pfm Member

    I feel like Rimmer from Red Dwarf - There are probably infinite fatmarleys out there in parallel universes and I'm the worst one :(
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  17. Alex S

    Alex S carbon based lifeform

    I shared a pint with Ken Clarke once and the insolent, erudite little shit beat me into second place in the pub quiz.
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  18. Joe Hutch

    Joe Hutch Mate of the bloke

    ROFL. I never wished to be like Corbyn, even in my youth. 'Nice but dim' is how I've seen him.
  19. Swamp Thing

    Swamp Thing Remainiac Terrorist

    Which was nice.
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  20. Nick_G

    Nick_G pfm Member

    Nah you're Ace Marley!

    "Smoke me a kipper. I'll be back for breakfast."
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