I agree, obviously.The electorate isn’t 68 million..
Well, the fact the EU was to change dramatically, meaning the effect of remaining was to change dramatically should have been honestly stated so the electorate knew what they were voting for. It wasn’t and the electorate didn’t.The reason there was no 'type of remain' on the ballot paper is pretty straightforward. Remain meant continuing the current relationship with the EEC/EU. As we've seen over the last two years there are lots of different ways of leaving - and some of those you now say aren't really leave despite the public being told that they were before the referendum.
Well, the fact the EU was to change dramatically, meaning the effect of remaining was to change dramatically should have been honestly stated so the electorate knew what they were voting for. It wasn’t and the electorate didn’t.
Can you point to one?I agree, obviously.
Now go tell the whinging remainers who believe the electorate is 68 million.
Round and round we go. The question was remain or leave, I linked to it earlier, no deals were mentioned as part of the question, voting leave means leaving without any deal.So which type of leave did we vote for?
I think the referendum meant might be a deal, might be no deal. So you needed to be ok with no deal. Not sure enough people were thinking that. One reason why I support a second referendum.Round and round we go. The question was remain or leave, I linked to it earlier, no deals were mentioned as part of the question, voting leave means leaving without any deal.
You’re clutching at that straw hard-remainers simply can’t let go.
In a General Election, the ballot paper just states the candidate name and their party. Just because the manifesto isn’t spelled out on the ballot, doesn’t mean voters don’t make their choice with reference to it, nor that parties don’t make an implicit contract to honour their manifesto and related campaigning promises.Round and round we go. The question was remain or leave, I linked to it earlier, no deals were mentioned as part of the question, voting leave means leaving without any deal.
You’re clutching at that straw hard-remainers simply can’t let go.
Round and round we go. The question was remain or leave, I linked to it earlier, no deals were mentioned as part of the question, voting leave means leaving without any deal.
Lame yourself. Regulation is a fact of life. Get used to it, there's no aspect of your life that's free from it. As far as rules and regulations about changing a bathroom go, have you never had a wife?Lol.
Sorry, that was a typo. I meant Lame. What you also didn't buy into was someone rocking up in the 90s, telling you that if you want to change your 1973 salmon pink bathroom suite avec bidet you must do this, this and this.
I refer you to your post 329 where you selected 8 in Steven Toy's list: 'Use our influence to reform the EU.' If you don't have any ideas on what reforms you would like to see, what are you actually talking about?
Just seeing red every time a leave voter posts anything, I presume.
Round and round we go. The question was remain or leave, I linked to it earlier, no deals were mentioned as part of the question, voting leave means leaving without any deal.
You’re clutching at that straw hard-remainers simply can’t let go.
I mostly agree.I think the referendum meant might be a deal, might be no deal. So you needed to be ok with no deal. Not sure enough people were thinking that. One reason why I support a second referendum.
Matthew, See above for the first bit, though I don’t presume to speak for 17.4m people. It’s not my responsibility to justify or explain why anybody voted how they did.So you are saying that all the people who voted to Leave voted for a No Deal WTO exit?
Does this not mean that everyone apart from ardent No Dealers like Steve Baker, Rees-Mogg and Farage has been disobeying the referendum vote by trying to make a deal with the EU?
Out of interest, what were you expecting when you voted leave?Sorry, but I am not going to play the endless remainer game of coming with excuse after excuse why the result should be ignored. I simply don’t agree with what hard-remainers have been doing since the referendum.
Joining the Euro yes, other laws maybe.Correct. UK has an absolute veto on joining the Euro and an "ever-closer union/Federal Europe", so why all the whining from the Brexiteers like you.
That piece also says that 'soft power' is important, ie consensus is sought before it even gets to a vote. Soft power was something that, historically, the UK was very good at in the EU. I rather suspect our abilities to command the respect of our EU compatriots, and thus wield that soft power effectively, have diminished of late.Our options to block laws we don't like have diminished, while our contributions increase,
Matthew, See above for the first bit, though I don’t presume to speak for 17.4m people. It’s not my responsibility to justify or explain why anybody voted how they did.
Although given how often in this debate we are reminded of the "will of the people" if the 17.4m covers a plurality of views and opinions then it is at least relevant.
Nice try.Out of interest, what were you expecting when you voted leave?
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