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Tory MP assaults protester

JensenHealey said:
If a policeman or security officer had ejected the woman it would not have made the news. Nor would anyone be accusing said officer of assault.

And to argue that it was a peaceful protest? that can only be guessed at with the benefit of hindsight. Thirty years ago you would have assumed that. In modern times in central London that could be a dangerous assumption.

Greenpeace of course got what they wanted - far more publicity than they can have dreamt of.
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By that logic anyone would be entitled to assault anyone walking past them. No, this was just assault. The full clip shows how earlier on, security had assessed the situation and were ushering the protesters out of the hall in the accepted manner.

Most had been ushered out already. Mark Field had also assessed the situation, and decided on his own cowardly, bullying ambush.
 
tiggers said:
If a police officer (there are women in the police you know) had ejected the woman they would have done so by first asking her to leave and then being physical as a last resort, but even then they wouldn't have grabbed her throat. You are making excuses for something that excuses cannot be made for!
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I'm sorry; is your throat on the back of your neck? If so, get to a specialist...
 
hifilover1979 said:
Haha; what kind of pi$$-ant snowflake society are we in these days?

All these complaints of how people are 'disgusted' by this action etc... She's somehow managed to get in, passed security with an aim to cause disruption. She's a security threat and has been treated as such. If it was a bloke, no one would say a thing, but it's not, its a women and the whole world and it's bandwagon jump on the back of it...

That's the more pathetic thing about this

Stop being so pathetic, stop being so soft, stop being so overly PC and just accept that she got what she deserved! There are ways and means of doing things; she did it wrong, she got booted out! End of, tough shit!
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Get in the sea.
 
claire.foxx said:
You know I don’t feel good knowing that PFM has a moderator with views like this...
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There appear to be a few more posters on here who have views even more concerning frankly. I thought we were past misogynism and it being 'OK' for powerful men to throw their weight around. Then again I thought we were past bigotry and racism to an extent until a few years ago.... seems the UK is not a very nice place these days!
 
hifilover1979 said:
Stop being so pathetic, stop being so soft, stop being so overly PC and just accept that she got what she deserved!
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She got what she deserved? How come? What did she do to deserve being physically assaulted? What is you justification for that? Please explain as I'm keen to find out how the mind of someone who thinks a man physically assaulting a woman in a scenario like that is OK works. Partly so I can look out for the signs in order that I can avoid contact with such individuals.
 
Under his ITV...If he thought she was a security threat then he must also have believed she was carrying a bomb in her neck as he did sod all to control her hands/arms... the man knew she was no threat ergo he is a bully and should face prosecution.
 
tiggers said:
There appear to be a few more posters on here who have views even more concerning frankly. I thought we were past misogynism and it being 'OK' for powerful men to throw their weight around. Then again I thought we were past bigotry and racism to an extent until a few years ago.... seems the UK is not a very nice place these days!
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Someone already said on here- Britain has always been this way. It became unacceptable to act it out but now permission’s being given - from the top. The Tory Party is taking the mask off. It’s arms have been sore holding it up after Cameron told them to put it on.
 
hifilover1979 said:
Haha; what kind of pi$$-ant snowflake society are we in these days?

All these complaints of how people are 'disgusted' by this action etc... She's somehow managed to get in, passed security with an aim to cause disruption. She's a security threat and has been treated as such. If it was a bloke, no one would say a thing, but it's not, its a women and the whole world and it's bandwagon jump on the back of it...

That's the more pathetic thing about this

Stop being so pathetic, stop being so soft, stop being so overly PC and just accept that she got what she deserved! There are ways and means of doing things; she did it wrong, she got booted out! End of, tough shit!
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Did you watch the video with envy? You could have done it even better...I’m sure you’ll be sharing- for a more receptive audience elsewhere.
 
When these toxic times are over (Trump, Brexit the rise of the popularist right) we will look back on it as the panicking death throes of the entitled angry white man. Literally toxic masculinity poisoning the well.
 
The alt-right machinery will now be working overtime digging through the activist's social media footprint to find a gag about MPs that can be taken out of context and used in an orchestrated smear campaign. From Guido to The Telegraph to the BBC, just like the poor bastard who had the temerity to put a difficult question to the future king during the BBC's hour-long ad for the hard Brexit the other day. The Conservative Party is at war with the public and the media are very much on board.
 
tiggers said:
She got what she deserved? How come? What did she do to deserve being physically assaulted? What is you justification for that? Please explain as I'm keen to find out how the mind of someone who thinks a man physically assaulting a woman in a scenario like that is OK works. Partly so I can look out for the signs in order that I can avoid contact with such individuals.
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Careful. He's bigger than you.
 
Stunsworth said:
I've now dug out the original Kuenssberg Tweet, and what you're showing is a highly edited version of what she wrote. She was retweeting a post from Katya Adler, and the index finger (not thumb) was pointing at Adler's tweet which read...

"This is horrific. Conservative foreign minister Mark Field violently grabs a women as she protests about climate change at the bankers' banquet...."

So your interpretation has totally missed the point of LK's tweet.
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Nothing is edited. Read the tweet I linked to on page 1. She said exactly what I took a screenshot of, quoting a female Labour MP who was quite rightly horrified.

Point taken re the emoji. Not a thumb down but pointing at the Tweet below.

Dec has it spot on. She tried to divert attention away from the assault and on to Labour, because she's a Tory.

I didn't see her condemning the actions of the thug either. One might expect another woman too, but...
 
Mark Field deserves support not criticism.
He had no idea what that individual was going to do. She was moving quickly towards the chancellor with no security and he stopped the individual. He should be praised for that.
Sex and politics should have nothing to do with this. He didn't punch her, kick her or cause any harm. He stopped her and removed her from the scene potentially putting himself at harm.
Wtf did the individual expect was going to happen. But as someone has pointed out Greenpeace 1 politics 0.
 
Philim said:
Mark Field deserves support not criticism.
He had no idea what that individual was going to do. She was moving quickly towards the chancellor with no security and he stopped the individual. He should be praised for that.
Sex and politics should have nothing to do with this. He didn't punch her, kick her or cause any harm. He stopped her and removed her from the scene potentially putting himself at harm.
Wtf did the individual expect was going to happen. But as someone has pointed out Greenpeace 1 politics 0.
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Sorry, you’ve obviously missed the bit about security already assessing and being on the task of moving the protesters peacefully from the venue. They didn’t need Mark Fields doing his riff on Clear And Present Danger. He acted from his own motivations which were little to do with protecting the speaker. He needs to go in front of a jury.
 
maxflinn said:
Dec has it spot on. She tried to divert attention away from the assault and on to Labour, because she's a Tory.
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She retweeted a Tweet (rightly) saying that the assault was horrific, she said that Labour would be all over it (which they are). I don't see any diversion in that.

You might have had a point if she hadn't retweeted the original Tweet, and had used a thumbs down as you claimed, but neither of those were the case - she was _drawing_ attention to the assault, by retweeting the original, not diverting attention from it.
 
It was a prima facie assault as Mark Field clearly understands since he is now building his "she might have had a knife/acid/grenade"/victoria sponge" self-defence gambit.

The Police should investigate, imo.
 
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