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Where do you stand on cable lifters Rad, a worthwhile improvement or too ridiculous even for you?
Keith
Keith
Where do you stand on cable lifters Rad, a worthwhile improvement or too ridiculous even for you?
Keith
As i said on another thread....you have heard of the scorpion & the Frog fable i assume.
Works both ways, though doubt many would not notice the change in sound from the van damme to Grey in my Naim set up, it's not one of those "subtle, so what's the point" moments.The other point I realised many years ago is that even if I play the same source material twice, making no changes, it often "sounds different" the second time to the first.
All kinds of reasons for this, from changes in human physiology prompted by the previous exposure, through now noticing details you missed the first time, to your head being in a sligntly different place because you aren't wearing a head-clamp.
So it was no surprise to me when some tests showed that if you asked people to tell if two playing were 'same' or 'different' they were more likely to say 'different' even when the same things was played in the same way.
This all sets a background level of variation in how we think something sounds. Can easily lead (pun alert!) to someone concluding that something "made a difference".
Before anyone steps in....yes, eyes tight shut with not a clue as to which cables was in place, done on a rota, many times.
So yes, I'm sure that in some cases a change of cable may cause an audible alteration, and may be an improvement. But in general I don't hear changes when I've tried this that get above the level of the above. There are exceptions, but I find that something like a slight shift of the listening seat or speakers makes a much more noticable change.
All that said, I've never claimed or though I have 'golden ears'. And I have never tried to review things. One of my concerns about magazine reviews is that since I don't use their system in their room and may not share their taste, I have no confidence I'd agree with them even when I accept they are reliably reporting what they heard or preferred.
FWIW I've spent *years* trying to check and make sense of all kind of fancy 'effects' and 'theories' people put forwards for why adding unobtainium makes an expensive cable sound good. So far I've not found much that stands up. But this, of course, may just sometimes be the vendors jumping on the wrong reason for something out of ignorance.
Exactly. A simple point which properly understood cuts through a good chunk of argument on this forum. For some reason though very few people get it.The other point I realised many years ago is that even if I play the same source material twice, making no changes, it often "sounds different" the second time to the first.
All kinds of reasons for this, from changes in human physiology prompted by the previous exposure, through now noticing details you missed the first time, to your head being in a sligntly different place because you aren't wearing a head-clamp.
So it was no surprise to me when some tests showed that if you asked people to tell if two playing were 'same' or 'different' they were more likely to say 'different' even when the same things was played in the same way.
This all sets a background level of variation in how we think something sounds. Can easily lead (pun alert!) to someone concluding that something "made a difference".
So yes, I'm sure that in some cases a change of cable may cause an audible alteration, and may be an improvement. But in general I don't hear changes when I've tried this that get above the level of the above. There are exceptions, but I find that something like a slight shift of the listening seat or speakers makes a much more noticable change.
Yes. Purite doesn't seem too worried about drowning.
Sometimes things are just too stubborn to drown, they just float.
Sometimes things are just to stubborn to drown, they just float.
Oh buoy ! Oddly, I haven't heard that fable. Don't think Aesop was around in my infancy.
Apologies Radamel, this one is for Jim Audiomusic, hit the wrong post....Yes. Purite doesn't seem too worried about drowning.
Works both ways.
Get some hearers and none hearers together and share the cable experience. Lets see what happens when one cook is deafened by the difference and another is saying what difference?
Solo experiences proclaimed volubly on a forum are futile.
I have no issue with proper double-blind comparisons because if the eyes influence perception of audio, we should dem kit blind if we want to minimize bias. It might even save you some dough.
But what do you do afterward? It's not like when you're listening at home it will be blind. You'll know exactly what's in your system and presumably the biases will resurface, influencing your perception.
Joe