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Trump Part 12

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Joe P said:
I woke up to some welcome Trump-related news for a change, but it's clear that even though Doug Jones won Alabama still has a long way to go.

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Bloody hell! Almost three out of four white guys and two out of three white women voted for the child molester.

Joe
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That would be because they are racist low life scum.
 
so it seems i am not so crazy after all or perhaps just crazy like sanders (which is fine by me):


the trump resignation part is toward the end, for those who can't spare the full 7 minutes.
 
Sanders is great. Is Anderson(?) some sort of AI construct? I get a strong "uncanny valley" vibe when I study his "face".
 
My leftiness aside, I have to say that every time I hear Bernie Sanders speak on TV he comes across as a genuinely honest and decent human being.

Joe
 
droodzilla said:
Sanders is great. Is Anderson(?) some sort of AI construct? I get a strong "uncanny valley" vibe when I study his "face".
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i believe he's one of the scandinavian extras from game of thrones who caught the eye of a producer.


Joe P said:
My leftiness aside, I have to say that every time I hear Bernie Sanders speak on TV he comes across as a genuinely honest and decent human being.
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that's why he's the most popular politician in the USA. < lol shields up > the biggest travesty of the election was the clinton-DNC collusion to defeat him.
 
Vuk,

If it weren't for Clinton, the right-wing vilification machine — Republicans, Faux News, Breitfart, most of talk radio (Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, etc.) Alex Jones, etc. — would have locked phasers and photo torpedoes onto Bernie instead. He was spared only because he was not the target.

Someone as left as Bernie stands as much chance of winning the U.S. presidency as would a baby-eating atheist.

Joe
 
Joe P said:
Someone as left as Bernie stands as much chance of winning the U.S. presidency as would a baby-eating atheist.
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as i keep saying again and again, that is not what the polls were showing -- if i had to bet, i would go with the polls ahead of what a star-trek geek is saying on the internet every time, 69% of the time.
 
Vuk,

And as I keep saying, unless you've lived in the U.S. for a few years you don't have a good handle on just how deeply ingrained is the fear of and hatred towards socialism. Bernie may not be a socialist in the Scandinavian sense, but he would be painted as such by the right-wing vilification machine. Once tarnished with the brush of collectivism, it would be impossible to remove and Bernie's candidacy for U.S. president would go bbbblblblblblb down the terlet.

Joe
 
^ What Joe said.
It's not even hatred towards socialism. It's hatred towards what they think is socialism.
 
joe.

you lived in kentucky, so i will accept your anecdotal impressions of that state, but i suspect most of your knowledge of the USA as a whole comes from TV/newspapers/etc.
 
joe.

even with google help, i can't figure than one out. is it a star wars reference? you know i hate star wars.
 
Vuk,

That's the sound a terlet* makes when you flush it.

Joe

*Terlet being what New Yorkers call a toilet or "can" if you will.
 
are you saying thomas frank's opinion is carp?

he also thinks bernie would have won and has lived in the USA all his life, not to mention having written a book on american politics that's a modern day classic.
 
Vuk,

are you saying thomas frank's opinion is carp?
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Thomas Frank's opinion looks a bit fishy.

I'd be thrilled if Bernie had won the primaries and the presidential election, but I don't think either would have been likely, especially the later. Liberalism in the U.S. exists in pockets and within them liberals can be as progressives as they are anyplace progressives can be found, but the U.S. as a whole is centre right, both economically and socially. Bernie might be the most liked and trusted politician in the U.S., but that's not the same thing as a willingness to vote for him.

It's a shame because great swathes of the U.S. would be better off if he were the president, but the middle classes have been duped into thinking that the poor and immigrants are the sources of their misery.

Joe
 
Joe P said:
I'd be thrilled if Bernie had won the primaries and the presidential election, but I don't think either would have been likely, especially the later. Liberalism in the U.S. exists in pockets and within them liberals can be as progressives as they are anyplace progressives can be found, but the U.S. as a whole is centre right, both economically and socially. Bernie might be the most liked and trusted politician in the U.S., but that's not the same thing as a willingness to vote for him.

It's a shame because great swathes of the U.S. would be better off if he were the president, but the middle classes have been duped into thinking that the poor and immigrants are the sources of their misery.
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This is all true.
 
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