Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
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It’s 2024, not 1950!
It’s 2024, not 1950!
Have you watched a Moto GP race lately, the races are dull as ditchwater, all the bikes have advanced aero/ground effects now and shapeshifter ride high adjusters, riders can't follow or overtake each other because of loosing front downforce and overheating brakes. The are in effect two wheel F1 cars. The rides have to ride them very differently compared to the older bikes.MotoGP works, and not just because it's motorbikes and it's easier for them to overtake. The races are shorter, so it's effectively a sprint to the finish. F1 needs to move significantly in that direction. I'm not at all convinced that the heavy use of aero is helping the sport (to start with it arguably means they're not even cars in the real sense of the word). I really don't want to be watching racing that effectively boils down to who has the best aero and which drivers are the most like fighter pilots, it's not the kind of skill I want applauded in a driver.
As I said, I'd be much happier watching a shorter race run at lower speeds (because of lack of aero) where the vehicles are all about mechanical grip, where the drivers skill is more about race craft and balancing grip on the edge of adhesion.
I think the Japanese manufacturers haver been caught on the hop by the aforementioned arrival of aero on MotoGP bikes, and they have a serious amount of catching up to do, if they wish to be competitive again. Suzuki has gone, and Yamaha may follow. I'm hoping that Honda can get it together again.It all cyclic, the Japanese domination has ended and the European manufacturers have taken over. I think the problem is the Japanese manufacturers lack the vision they once had and don't really build interesting bikes anymore, at least a bike i'd want to buy.
Could be a good season though if Marquez & Acosta gets up to speed , they were there or thereabouts on Sunday.
Fair point, it's been a while I admit. I kinda lost interest when Marquez started to dominate. Never liked him. Plus it became more difficult to watch the races on TV. I've always been a Rossi fan (at least in the more modern era - before that it was Doohan).Have you watched a Moto GP race lately, the races are dull as ditchwater, all the bikes have advanced aero/ground effects now and shapeshifter ride high adjusters, riders can't follow or overtake each other because of loosing front downforce and overheating brakes. The are in effect two wheel F1 cars. The rides have to ride them very differently compared to the older bikes.
I enjoy the F1, i like all the technology and Ian's input, although the cars are a bit big and heavy.
I agree, no aero makes for more fun and exciting racing, you've only got to go to classic race series to see that.
Just wow. To my mind the greatest era of GP racing, apart from the appalling death toll. So many different configurations and sounds, easily identifiable cars too. Le Mans prototypes were faster but these little cigars were cutting edge, the factories and garagistes could do pretty much what they wanted and pushed the envelope for all it was worth.60 years since Honda’s first F1 race.
I couldn’t find a decent video of the RA271, so here’s the RA272.
And this to me is how a race engine should sound. Beautiful mechanical music.
Didn't see the link here yet and the F1 2024 thread isn't complete without it.
Well, it did take a mechanical failure to do it and one that appears to have been present from the start. Not even Red Bull can make something that works all the time. The interesting thing for my was Perez's performance in what would have been the same car. As @tiggers above says, it's the driver/car/team combination that delivers, and in Verstappen they have the (nearly) perfect package.All those clean-sweep predictions ha ha ha
Just woke up for a wee. Back to bed.
Well, it did take a mechanical failure to do it and one that appears to have been present from the start. Not even Red Bull can make something that works all the time. The interesting thing for my was Perez's performance in what would have been the same car. As @tiggers above says, it's the driver/car/team combination that delivers, and in Verstappen they have the (nearly) perfect package.