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Its a little on the large size for a digital streamer though. when you can get a good streamer with a hard drive in box the size of a guitar stompbox, this looks like an oversized retro thing really. Boxy, pandering to the aesthetics of people with a thing for old skool hifi. That screen is too small to the point of being mean and useless across a room. The box design dictates a particular way of interacting with the unit, with a front and back horizontal only placement, so if you stand over it, the screen is not ideally placed, and the display is quite hard to read at a distance of a foot away with two foot looking down -- so it needs to be placed high... Feels like a hifi component from 1970, in design terms a retrograde step especially in terms of usability user interface redundancy... Front panel and a tablet app and a remote... and am sure its a lovely sounding unit anything costing more than £100 these days is lovely sounding but its unimaginative design is a 'retro statement' rather than any real involvement I with addressing what a user interface for a device like this should be... Its shape is not dictated by anything other than simple unimaginative mess, materially it's a cop out. Price wise £2k I had expected some effort in almost every area of attention to detail rather than retro cool. Materially, colour, interface, positionality, conceptually no problem with local store but it has redundancy in key areas it does not need.

Something Sony always seems to mis gauge perhaps here it is intentional, to appeal to a cross section of the community that wants to have their stuff on show and is impressed by weighty boxes and machines slabs of metal.

I expected better.
I was in the market for this and felt let down.

I am off to hear one later in store, but as I have a NAS and any device like this is intended for life in a machine cupboard in a hallway, in another room Its looks and user interface is wasted. ideal for retro inspired types hut it feels like it lacks innovation, it looks like its a bait and switch to get people buying products based on the battle-proof sony build history of the 1970s when that past is behind them.
 
It can, it syncs with your iTunes library. It doesn't really matter where that library is stored. I spoke with Sony at Bristol Sound & Vision and the guy there said it would sync my NAS library no problem. I understand you install a piece of software on the host computer and that's what does the syncing.

Admittedly you do need a computer rather than just a standalone NAS drive though.

Sort of defeats the object. May as well use the Computer directly with the NAS with a good DAC. I agree with the earlier comment. Any type of hardware streamer should be able to interface with a NAS without the need for another computer especially if it is a current product. What a strange omission.

I'll stick with just the computers as at least they are cheap to replace when the time comes.
 

That's a lovely RD80 - have fond memories of a friend's one from years ago, always sounded excellent, and the LP12 he went to afterwards (ie my old one) wasn't that big an upgrade.

What power amp are you using with the 42?
 
Thanks Gromit.

My poweramp is NAP 160 (BD):



I'm mostly using NAP 160 with NAC 12 but sometimes with NAC 42 as pictured with TT.

Digital source is a dedicated fanless PC with a special software called Tinycore MPD (Linux based and heavily tweaked for audio). Modified ESI Juli@ audiocard (only digital part with coax SPDIF soldered) to Metrum Octave DAC.

Speakers are Spendor SP100R:



 
Thanks Gromit.

My poweramp is NAP 160 (BD):

Very nice. :)

I've very recently come back into the 'Naim Family' having bought a very sweet 42.5/110 from Gary Yeowell, then just last week got a virtually mint CB HiCap which is off to Class A for a service next week. I'm enjoying immensely - better than my Exposure XV & Sony 770ES? Hard to say, but it is a lot of fun, and far nicer than my old 72/HC/180.
 
It can, it syncs with your iTunes library. It doesn't really matter where that library is stored. I spoke with Sony at Bristol Sound & Vision and the guy there said it would sync my NAS library no problem. I understand you install a piece of software on the host computer and that's what does the syncing.

Admittedly you do need a computer rather than just a standalone NAS drive though.


There seems to be some confusion about this product so I'll try to clarify.

With regards to loading music, provided both NAS and Sony are on the same network it's simply a case of drag and drop from one to the other.

You do need a computer but then I can't think of many houses in the UK that have a NAS, would like a network player, and yet are devoid of computer. Once set up, the Sony will automatically inspect your NAS as often as you want, and import any new files that it finds whilst doing so. No need for you to do anything.

It does not stream over Upnp.This is a good thing for many. I've not heard a device that does that can hold a candle to the best disc players or PC/Dac combinations. The Sony can, and that is the market it is aimed at.

With regards to the styling, again, it's aimed at the high end hifi market. In most markets around the world, that means it needs to look like a hifi product - this is particularly the case in the domestic Japanese market. I like that personally. I rather suspect that Sony did plenty of market research and decided that people wanting a streamer to hide away in a cupboard were extremely unlikely to be remotely interested in HiRez replay or have concerns about the fidelity of existing product. These people are catered for by Sonos (whose own market research has decreed that HiRez is not even on their road map.)

So it looks like a hifi product and deserves pride of place in the audiophile's living room. This is a safe bet. Most people here at least have the system in full view, many in pride of place, and some on massive unsightly oil rigs that dominate the room whilst telling the world a lot.

Of course one could hide it out of the way. Day to day there is no need to go near it, the remote app controlling the device completely. Shame to hide such a wonderful display though.

Would I buy one? Probably not. In it's favour, it sounds as good as a Mac Mini driving both the NAD M51 and Aurilac Vega whilst at the same time avoiding the hassles of the likes of Pure Music and J River. It's very much plug and play and pain free and in such company it represents very good value for money.

My main issue would be that I would still need a Dac for Spotify if I wanted that, and for any other external sources like a satellite box or TV. I'd also have to tag an awful lot of files that right now don't need it and I personally don't need the hassle.

If I needed the day to day convenience of the Sony, I would buy one. And I would not reject it on sonic grounds, it's as good as I've heard (although the balance of virtues is different to some.). But I can live with my pro recorder and flash cards which saves £1200 and allows me to produce amazing sounding vinyl rips.
 
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This is a brilliant page- some really individualistic systems, layout and gorgeous photography. The threads getting my interest in Hifi jump started again.
 
It is utter utter pornography Dec, say fifty Hail Mary's and hand me the book for proper disposal...
 
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