farfromthesun
pfm Member
Well, for me it's not an opinion. Did you look at the link with stats that don't support your opinions?
Killing field day this Saturday
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Salamander
pfm Member
Can you expand on this and why you think @farfromthesun 's post is wrong.
blossomchris
I feel better than James Brown
I agree that the courses have become safer for rider and horses, it is what happens to the ones that do not make the grade and ones who retire. I am sure the majority do not find a retirement home and the majority are sent for butchering.
farfromthesun
pfm Member
Again, you would be wrong.
Salamander
pfm Member
There are many organisations out there for re-homing race horses, I know all the horses owned in the syndicate I was with have re-homed every horse. A small percentage of the subs went into a pot just for this.
I've heard stories about horses sent to France for butchering, I'm sure it still happens, but what of it. Are you a meat eater, again think how many animals are slaughtered for food everyday. Racehorses will have enjoyed a far better life than animals bred for humans to eat.
paulfromcamden
Baffled
BHA changed the rules a few years ago to stop horses being sent to slaughter.
New rule in Britain will end practice of sending former racehorses to abattoirs
Horses trained and entered to race in Britain will no longer be slaughtered at abattoirs following a BBC investigation
For myself, yes I realise (other) people eat meat and you could ask why a racehorse is different. But I wouldn't want the last moments of a loved one's life to be spent queuing up in an abattoir, terrified, waiting to have a bolt put through their brain.
bor
queue jumper
It's one of those tawdry sports that only really exist as a mechanism for betting, and if the gambling industry didn't have such massive lobbying resources, it would have been banned long ago.
I won't watch it. It seems voyeuristic to look on as those animals risk injury and death.
I won't watch it. It seems voyeuristic to look on as those animals risk injury and death.
blossomchris
I feel better than James Brown
Since giving up horse racing I have missed our acquaintances as we used to attend several events, but for me it had to go. so no more gambling on the gee gees or viewing them.
I do not eat red meat and certain species of fish, if I cannot kill it I will not eat it, simple as that.
I do not eat red meat and certain species of fish, if I cannot kill it I will not eat it, simple as that.
Cheese
Bitter lover
AudioAl
pfm Member
Will the event still have loads of tarpaulins available now the field is reduced and the course is safer for the time the unfortunate may happen , Quick cover it up from public eye , Nothing to see here , Move on and race around it 
I will not see this but do hope those that will have a good day , I eat very little meat and when I do sometimes can't finish it
, getting my teeth into a dead corps is not appealing at all for me , Nice plate of veg or salad is the way to go , and it makes me go more regularly, High fibre
I will not see this but do hope those that will have a good day , I eat very little meat and when I do sometimes can't finish it
, getting my teeth into a dead corps is not appealing at all for me , Nice plate of veg or salad is the way to go , and it makes me go more regularly, High fibre 
gez
pfm Member
Why send them to France? It won't be to become part of the supply chain for human consumption, that's certain. The horses that humans eat in France are specifically bred for that purpose, just like chickens in the UK there is a food supply chain that is specifically for "fit for human consumption" horses. An ex race horse would not meet those requirements (I don't believe). So I suspect it's highly unlikely that any racehorse ended up in France to be butchered would end up on somebodies plate. At least not legally.
"The channel ensures strict compliance with French and European regulations, be it in terms of traceability, health safety or respect for the animal’s well-being.
As is emphasised by the CIV (Centre d’Information des Viandes/Meat Information Centre) in a press release, the horse meat channel, just like other animal channels, is subject to strict European regulations in terms of breeding practices, transport of animals, slaughter, and the commercialisation of the meat.
Each foal is registered at birth, and an electronic chip the size of a grain of rice inserted into its neck.
Horses that are raised for the meat market are subjected to very strict standards of traceability and follow-up in terms of medical treatment.
On French territory, all owners can make the choice that their horses can never been slaughtered for food. This information is included in the medical treatment file that is part of the horse’s passport. This decision is a final one."
Horse meat
What is This? Horse meat consists of the muscle tissue of horses supplied for human consumption. A Little Historical Background As is shown in the hunting scenes depicted in rock paintings, horse meat has been eaten by man since the prehistoric era. Even though the degree to which slaughtered...
www.energie-cheval.fr
foxwelljsly
Me too, I ate one sour too.
paulfromcamden
Baffled
I adore greyhounds. I can't pass one in the street without going soppy...
foxwelljsly
Me too, I ate one sour too.
They are wonderful creatures. Often dismissed as stupid, they’re really just lazy and relatively untrainable, which only endears them to me more. I’m a bit torn on the whole notion of pets and companion animals, but as long as abandoned Greyhounds need somewhere to live and a smelly old Chesterfield to sleep on, our family will welcome them.
paulfromcamden
Baffled
Yes for some reason I strangely identify...
Some data :-
www.horsedeathwatch.com
46 this year already, on average over 120 a year since they started collecting info. in 2007. 70 have been at Aintree in that period.
If you want racing then remove the obstacles and it will be considerably safer. You can still bet on flat racing if you wish.
I've had horses in my life for some decades and they don't jump for fun or else every paddock would need 8' deer fencing, so basically you have a flight animal that has to be trained to do it. Looks like over 120 a year don't make the grade.
Jockeys ? A few of those have died in the UK as well let alone the ones who have falls that end their careers; that happened to a GN winner near me in the recent past.
Clearly having an annual bet on the GN allows you to view unnecessary death differently to some of us.
CHE
Race Horse Death Watch
www.horsedeathwatch.com
46 this year already, on average over 120 a year since they started collecting info. in 2007. 70 have been at Aintree in that period.
If you want racing then remove the obstacles and it will be considerably safer. You can still bet on flat racing if you wish.
I've had horses in my life for some decades and they don't jump for fun or else every paddock would need 8' deer fencing, so basically you have a flight animal that has to be trained to do it. Looks like over 120 a year don't make the grade.
Jockeys ? A few of those have died in the UK as well let alone the ones who have falls that end their careers; that happened to a GN winner near me in the recent past.
Clearly having an annual bet on the GN allows you to view unnecessary death differently to some of us.
CHE
A Liverpudlian businessman today complained to GB News about the downturn in his profits due to what he described as “the namby-pamby, wokerati”. “I used to have a great business taking away and rendering down all them horses that died at Aintee every race”, said Sid Knacker of 'Knacker, Knacker and D'Eath', But due to so-called 'better safety measures' I only get a few corpses a week that I can chainsaw the legs off and sell as glue to the local primary school. It's a disgrace !”.
Knacker showed us round the back his 14-bed mansion as he bemoaned the loss of employment “I used to have a dozen lads in there”, pointing at the meat hooks and bone crushers, “But now they're down-and-outs working for them ex-MPs in the Wirral; great shame”. With almost a tear in his year Knacker, standing on a visibly blood-stained floor, said “I remember the blood and gristle flowing down them gutters......................(continues Page94)...............
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Knacker showed us round the back his 14-bed mansion as he bemoaned the loss of employment “I used to have a dozen lads in there”, pointing at the meat hooks and bone crushers, “But now they're down-and-outs working for them ex-MPs in the Wirral; great shame”. With almost a tear in his year Knacker, standing on a visibly blood-stained floor, said “I remember the blood and gristle flowing down them gutters......................(continues Page94)...............
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