Mullardman
Moderately extreme...
Did you know that Harold Wilson closed more coal mines than the evil tories did?
Obviously. Closure mostly of small old collieries in favour of bigger more modern ones. Not closure of an entire industry.
Mull
Did you know that Harold Wilson closed more coal mines than the evil tories did?
Mulls been on the red again
They mined for coal under people's homes?
Bushmills makes everything clearer because drinking Bushmills lets you see how good it is at sorting out what is happening in the world.
So endeth the lesson.
No it doesn't.
Cheers,
DV
Neither benzene nor methane are used in fracking.
I suppose there is an argument for importing fossil energy if it keeps one's own reserves in the ground as a strategic fallback.
It's an argument. But the reality is that the likes of The US, India and China are using up fossil fuels in vastly bigger quantities than us.
Thatcher put us in hock to the Russians for gas and other non UK sources for coal.
We opened the World's first nuclear power station in the 1950s and now we are so crippled by the cumulative Thatcherite 'anti manufacturing', anti nationalisation, anti- Govt. Research Funding etc., that we have to go cap in hand to the French to build us new Nuke Power Stations.
It's pathetic.
Mull
No Bushmills influenced my OP.
That was the night before.
Mull
If you take account of the energy used to mine, refine, build a nuclear plant, decommission it, reprocess the waste and store it, its debatable whether you get more energy out than you put in. Its unlikely nuclear fission is the answer to the energy problems we face, maybe a stopgap but no way long term. Fusion or solar is the best hope.
Ah sure that how it works. Ye can drink a bottle one night and be sober as a judge an the next night not a drop touches your lips and your howling like a banshee.
1979, Tories come to power. UK deep mined output 108m tonnes.Some Tory on Question Time has just tried to justify fracking on the basis that not doing it means importing energy at net loss to the country.
Oddly, the same argument didn't seem to count when the bastards were closing down our coal industry.
Mull
Who closed down the industry?
1979, Tories come to power. UK deep mined output 108m tonnes.
1984, miners' strike, 35m tonnes.
1986 back up to 90m tonnes.
1990, John Major takes over as PM, 73m tonnes.
1997, Labour come to power, 30m tonnes.
2009, last full year of a Labour government, 8m tonnes. Note, coal imports at this stage 38m tonnes.
Who closed down the industry?
Source - https://www.gov.uk/government/stati...ion-availability-and-consumption-1853-to-2011
That's what fracking does, puts methane into the water supply. Good idea if you ask me, saves time when making a cup of tea.
Exactly...market forces
Can you imagine the hooha it would generate now if someone suggested digging coal out of the ground and burning it?