Why are grammar schools elitist?
- Thread starter Simon Vess
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richardg
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Well I thought your unpleasant comment about solicitors got deleted? Was it another thread? Anyway, that and the fact that you seem to be quite aggressive (at least to me) and rude in attempt to put people down by referring to their comments as ignorant. I've seen people get banned for less (again, seems like less at least to me).
Simon Vess
pfm Member
hmmm! You are entitled to your ( dare i say rather precious) views....
Referring to your comments as ignorant is accurate because they reflect a deep lack of real knowledge and understanding
Is that better?
Simon
Simon Vess
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I'll show mine if you show yours, eh?
Up to postgraduate level
Why ?
Simon
Up to postgraduate level
Why ?
Simon
Simon Vess
pfm Member
Yes
A very old fashioned single sex one with all the usual crusty old traditions one often attributes to Public schools
And still going strong
I repeat my question
Why?
Simon
A very old fashioned single sex one with all the usual crusty old traditions one often attributes to Public schools
And still going strong
I repeat my question
Why?
Simon
ks.234
Half way to Infinity
Gosh, who'd a guessed?
david ellwood
Kirabosi Kognoscente
i suppose if all these well funded grammar schools are located in areas of poverty to give the children of under privileged families a good start educationally then I'm all for it.
Simon Vess
pfm Member
Your post is far too cryptic for my poor brain, i find it offensive and i think you should be banned
On second thoughts, nothing short of 30 years hard labour would be a fitting punishment!
Simon
Simon Vess
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ks.234
Half way to Infinity
Thank you so much Tony. This has kept a smile on my face since I read it!
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
Crusty? Were the pupils not counselled against the perils of onanism?
Cav
pfm Member
Just interested. I think Grammar schools, today, are an anachronism. Like workhouses and the undeserving poor. YMMV, as they say.
TheDecameron
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You once dissed my bathroom on a thread but I forgave you and turned the other cheek.
matthewr
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You asked why, if it was ok to give people assessed with special needs extra help why was it also not ok to give the brightest extra help. Special Educational Needs means people who, through no fault of their own and for a variety of reasons, need extra help. If you didn't mean SEN and just meant students with differing academic abilities then you don't really have a point because all those student are already treated, if not the same, then equally.
So your point is either at best misinformed or at worse stupid and offensive or else you don't really have a point at all.
ks.234
Half way to Infinity
Or all four?
richardg
Admonishtrator
Sorry. I didn't meant to be rude. It was what was in the bath that disturbed me.
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
cooky1257
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Ofsted 2013 report;
In response to these findings, HM Chief Inspector, Sir Michael Wilshaw, said:
If we are going to succeed as an economy and as a society, we have to make more of our most able young people. We need them to become the political, commercial and professional leaders of tomorrow.
Too many non-selective schools are failing to nurture scholastic excellence. While the best of these schools provide excellent opportunities, many of our most able students receive mediocre provision. Put simply, they are not doing well enough because their secondary schools fail to challenge and support them sufficiently from the beginning. I believe the term ‘special needs’ should be as relevant to the most able as it is to those who require support for their learning difficulties. Yet some of the schools visited for this survey did not even know who their most able students were. This is completely unacceptable.
It is a serious concern that many non-selective schools fail to imbue their most able students with the confidence and high ambition that characterise many students in the selective or independent sector. Why should the most able students in the non-selective sector not have the same belief that they, too, can reach the top?
Controversial use of the term 'Special Needs' from the boss of Ofsted....
In response to these findings, HM Chief Inspector, Sir Michael Wilshaw, said:
If we are going to succeed as an economy and as a society, we have to make more of our most able young people. We need them to become the political, commercial and professional leaders of tomorrow.
Too many non-selective schools are failing to nurture scholastic excellence. While the best of these schools provide excellent opportunities, many of our most able students receive mediocre provision. Put simply, they are not doing well enough because their secondary schools fail to challenge and support them sufficiently from the beginning. I believe the term ‘special needs’ should be as relevant to the most able as it is to those who require support for their learning difficulties. Yet some of the schools visited for this survey did not even know who their most able students were. This is completely unacceptable.
It is a serious concern that many non-selective schools fail to imbue their most able students with the confidence and high ambition that characterise many students in the selective or independent sector. Why should the most able students in the non-selective sector not have the same belief that they, too, can reach the top?
Controversial use of the term 'Special Needs' from the boss of Ofsted....