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Which British brands are still and truly British?

Discussion in 'audio' started by cchean, Apr 5, 2021.

  1. the caretaker

    the caretaker pfm Member

    +1 for LFD just fab.
    TJC and Torris12 like this.
  2. Gervais Cote

    Gervais Cote Predator

    Some of the Fyne speakers are made In Asia, mostly their entry level ones.
  3. Jamie

    Jamie pfm Member

    Some Cyrus stuff is now made in China (at least the One Cast is, not sure what else).
  4. canonman

    canonman pfm Member

    Malaysian owned
  5. PerF

    PerF Scandinavian Member

    Fyne F1- & F7xx plus the SP editions are made in UK
    All others are Asia made
  6. alx

    alx confused

    Not british!

    "The trade mark ONIX has been acquired by Shanling Digital Technology of China
    booja30 likes this.
  7. ONIX DNA is different (and IIRC not to be mentioned on PFM)
    Old Shatterhand and Woodface like this.
  8. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr Well, I can dream, can’t I?

    The OP was about ownership of the company though, not place of manufacture. A lot of British manufacturers have cabinets or casework made elsewhere, and of course most electronic components are imported if you want to get right down to details.
    Miss Ariel and Gervais Cote like this.
  9. TheFlash

    TheFlash Superhero of Sound

    Of course, as many posts have touched on, we'd need to agree on what "still and truly British" means. It could be some combination of
    • does it matter where are they headquartered?
    • does it matter where their products are (final-)assembled?
    • does it matter whether most of their components are British?
    • does it matter whether they are privately owned (and if so, the nationality of their majority owners) or a PLC (shareholders may be transient/anywhere)?
    • if a division of something bigger, does that automatically make them "un-British"? Or if they are an autonomous division of something overseas-HQ'd does that maybe count?
    It's either complicated or, no offence to the OP, a meaningless concept.

    Most hifi equipment relies on a huge number of components which are imported, whether DAC chips, speaker drivers, cases, or whatever. Let me list a few "British" favourites, all preceded by AFAIK and followed by a question mark:

    ProAc: Scandinavian drivers assembled in Britain into British made cabinets by an independent British-owned company
    ATC: British drivers assembled in Britain into British made cabinets by an independent British-owned company
    Sugden: feels quintessentially British (owned, assembled) but no idea where the components come from
    Music First Audio: British-wound transformers assembled in Britain
    dCS: not sure about components or cases but... British owned, HQ'd, assembling in Britain
    Arcam: formerly British in most senses, then acquired by US company (for IMHO their product hay day) and now owned by Harman-Kardon
  10. Gervais Cote

    Gervais Cote Predator

    Sugden : their electrolytic capacitors are Chinese in most of their amplifiers nowadays but eh, we are in 2021 !
    TheFlash likes this.
  11. 90% of the components in a British built and designed product will be globally sourced.
  12. h.g.

    h.g. pfm Member

    Billy Woodman is (was?) Australian. How much of ATC does he own?

    Peter Qvortrup is Danish. How much of Audio Note UK does he own?

  13. pocketkitchen

    pocketkitchen Registered User

    Acoustic Energy is Malaysian owned nowadays. Had been for about the last decade, iirc.
  14. Curtis

    Curtis pfm Member

    Interesting as their website says they are British owned again.
  15. Martyn Miles

    Martyn Miles pfm Member

    My old Raleigh bicycle is 100% British.
    But perhaps not.
    Those new tyres were probably made in China or Taiwan.
    Oh dear...
  16. Old Shatterhand

    Old Shatterhand pfm Member

    ...and your brakes, saddle, shifters, grips, handlebar, seat-post, spokes, rims, crank and so on...
  17. Rockmeister

    Rockmeister pfm Member

    Why do you ask oh hewhowasborninthe UK?
  18. Martyn Miles

    Martyn Miles pfm Member

    So it’s only the frame which is 100% British ?
    Mind you, the seat post has never been changed and the ‘shifter’ ( ? ) is original.
    A 3 speed Sturmey-Archer toggle.
    And the handlebars, and crank, and spokes, and rims, and calliper brakes and so on...
    Old Shatterhand likes this.
  19. Old Shatterhand

    Old Shatterhand pfm Member

    Oh, sorry, I didn't know you mean that old with "old".:oops:
    Most bikes use components from Shimano and Sram (and some road bike Campagnolo) which are manufactured in east Asia.
  20. pocketkitchen

    pocketkitchen Registered User

    If they’re British owned again, then that’s great. I hope Neil Truckell is still there, he’s been their driving force for years.
    Curtis likes this.

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