UEFA Euros 2024
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matthewr
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If you resort to quoting Le Tissier you will lose every argument. He's an absolute fruitcake.
Tigerjones
Bagpuss
Do you think we are scoring 3 goals or more?
gez
pfm Member
Croatia should start packing their bags to go home now then.
kensalriser
pfm Member
Have you ever been to Leipzig?
Suffolk Tony
Aim low, achieve your goals, avoid disappointment.
“Following Albania's defeat to Spain last night, England have qualified for the last 16 of the Euros 'without kicking a ball', continuing a fine run of form for Harry Kane.”
Weekender
pfm Member
Pundits have their say and pick your starting XI:
I went with Wayne, Micah and Phil's choice.
England team to face Slovenia: BBC pundits pick their sides
Who should start for England against Slovenia? BBC pundits pick their Three Lions XIs for the final Group C game.
www.bbc.co.uk
gez
pfm Member
Agree, preferably Rum. Imbibing significant quantities is exactly what's required to believe that England can beat any team by 3 clear goals.
Aye I can see it cause they can't be any worse than they've been up to now.
Tigerjones
Bagpuss
You would hope so, but after all these years of watching England you can never be too confident.
I honestly don't think they've been as bad as the hysterical reaction suggests.
Some really excellent players and a couple of world class ones too, Kane is fantastic I don't really understand the criticism of him to be honest.
blossomchris
I feel better than James Brown
I tend to agree, completely over the top. It must get you down eventually, maybe that is what some of the fans/journalists desire
Alex S
carbon based lifeform
Even the clueless Danny Murphy can pick a better England team than Southgate.Pundits have their say and pick your starting XI:
I went with Wayne, Micah and Phil's choice.England team to face Slovenia: BBC pundits pick their sides
Who should start for England against Slovenia? BBC pundits pick their Three Lions XIs for the final Group C game.www.bbc.co.uk
I mean qualified for the next round after two games, unbeaten and the main striker scores goals.
Wish Scotland were as poor.
Weekender
pfm Member
Please post "hysterical reactions" here. I've yet to see any. Thanks.
England have done well despite Southgate - some examples from this tournament so far:
He's named a squad with no fit left backs.
He has started a tournament without a clear idea of his formation and game plan on and off the ball.
Southgate has experimented with TAA in a system using a 9 who can't turn and run into space and with only one wide player in Saka who can bomb on. He took TAA off in the last game and then brought on Eze and Watkins who do run into space and would have benefitted from Trent's passing range.
He's played Foden, one of the best players in the PL at opening defences, out of position on the left and he's played Bellingham as a roving 10 so that they get in each others way (or at least they do not seem to have been coached at which channels/runs to operate in) and when he'd be better as a 6/8. Bellingham would be excellent at breaking up opposition play and making breaks and passing to forwards. Southgate said "I've not been able to replace Kalvin Philips" Use Bellingham then! He could also still get in the box. He'd be more involved in setting the tempo of play from a deeper position.
He has given zero minutes to the best left sided player of the season at stretching play in Gordon - which would have suited TAA's long diagonals.
We have lacked game control but he has not featured Wharton.
He did nothing to get the team up the pitch when they sat back against Denmark. Coach from the touchline...
He brought Eze on in the last game with zero tactical instructions. Either that or Eze was rendered clueless for half an hour.
Harry Kane said "we didn't know how to press" Denmark - who's fault is that? The coach!
OK I'm getting hysterical now. Or am I, like a boatload of commentators who know far more about the game, merely pointing out the tactical deficiencies of the manager? And yes he's a great bloke!
Still, we should beat Slovenia and comfortably top the worst group in the competition.
England have done well despite Southgate - some examples from this tournament so far:
He's named a squad with no fit left backs.
He has started a tournament without a clear idea of his formation and game plan on and off the ball.
Southgate has experimented with TAA in a system using a 9 who can't turn and run into space and with only one wide player in Saka who can bomb on. He took TAA off in the last game and then brought on Eze and Watkins who do run into space and would have benefitted from Trent's passing range.
He's played Foden, one of the best players in the PL at opening defences, out of position on the left and he's played Bellingham as a roving 10 so that they get in each others way (or at least they do not seem to have been coached at which channels/runs to operate in) and when he'd be better as a 6/8. Bellingham would be excellent at breaking up opposition play and making breaks and passing to forwards. Southgate said "I've not been able to replace Kalvin Philips" Use Bellingham then! He could also still get in the box. He'd be more involved in setting the tempo of play from a deeper position.
He has given zero minutes to the best left sided player of the season at stretching play in Gordon - which would have suited TAA's long diagonals.
We have lacked game control but he has not featured Wharton.
He did nothing to get the team up the pitch when they sat back against Denmark. Coach from the touchline...
He brought Eze on in the last game with zero tactical instructions. Either that or Eze was rendered clueless for half an hour.
Harry Kane said "we didn't know how to press" Denmark - who's fault is that? The coach!
OK I'm getting hysterical now. Or am I, like a boatload of commentators who know far more about the game, merely pointing out the tactical deficiencies of the manager? And yes he's a great bloke!
Still, we should beat Slovenia and comfortably top the worst group in the competition.
Brown Bottle
UTB
Hopefully they’ll let the shackles off a bit tonight, now they’ve qualified. I just want to see on the front foot a bit more and on our toes, very flat footed in the last game.
Cheers BB
Cheers BB
gez
pfm Member
My response was one purely of statistics...As in what percentage of games do England ever beat the opposition by 3 clear goals? Purely from gut feel (and memory of results shown on the news etc) I'm going with a very low percentage. As I said previously, England have a habit of playing down to the lowest common denomiator. Teams that you'd expect them to beat easily and resoundingly (as in 3-4 clear goals) they end up only beating by 1 or 2 and struggle even to achieve that.
Also, let's be honest, just from the general perspective of international football, a 3 goal clear win is a relatively uncommon thing.
Also, let's be honest, just from the general perspective of international football, a 3 goal clear win is a relatively uncommon thing.