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Star Trek: Original Series • Discovery • Picard • Lower Decks • Prodigy • Strange New Worlds

Bob,

You think the PTSD flashback scenes are Voq being surgically altered to look human?

Joe
 
Nic,

What's implied I believe is that Ash Tyler was raped by L'Rell. Or he "consented" to do the nasty repeatedly only to avoid even worse torture.

Joe

Ash Tyler is Voq.
His confusing memories are conflating two different experiences.
His torture before L’Rell converted him and his sexual relationship as Voq with L’Rell.
 
Remember, in previous incarnations of Trek, the Klingons were capable of altering themselves to be spies on the Federation.
 
This seems like a good place to post a picture of a tribble.

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Joe
 
Surgically altered to be a human and totally undetectable to a full body scan by the old ships doc, which is what he went through at least twice so far when returning from Klingon ships?

If it does turn out that he's Voq then it would surely have to be a mind transfer to Clem Fandango's body, and not a surgical thing which would surely leave traces (klingons) which could be detected. Also the DNA signal scrambler he wore onto the Ship of the Dead would probably get confused.

In a previous episode she said she's take him to her clan but he would have to be prepared to sacrifice everything...so my guess is mind transfer to Clem, creating Ash. The flashbacks are because at the moment Ash's personality is dominant but L'Rell will be biding her time to trigger the resurgence of Voq when opportune.

Or something.....'cos mind transfers by the Klingons doesn't sound like something they'd normally do, unless they subcontracted it to Dathomir......
 
Do we need an Orville thread? I have to say that while not particularly subtle, Majority Rule was an excellent episode.

Type YES if you agree.

Joe
 
Luckily, The Orville is available on a non-Fox station here so I can watch the show while farting in Rupert’s general direction.

Joe
 


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