So you'd rather stay in a country feeling robbed by the state. Sounds to me as if you can afford to but you enjoy complaining.
Spending review 2013
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So you'd rather stay in a country feeling robbed by the state. Sounds to me as if you can afford to but you enjoy complaining.
Tony L
Administrator
I just feel it's a little odd to bite the hand that gave you the opportunity to think like that!
Mescalito
pfm Member
Whenever it has been tried it has led to tyranny, repression, poverty & often famine.
Chris
And how is capitalism a roaring success?
Not too much of tyranny, repression, poverty or I expect famine since the introduction of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beveridge_Report but your view of the World may differ.
Mescalito
pfm Member
Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty, and more people into affluence than any other factor in the world's history.
Chris
Mullardman
Moderately extreme...
So 'less Govt. is always good'?
By that logic 'No Govt. at all is best'.
Not the first time I've suggested you consider moving to Somalia or some other Godforsaken shithole with no infrastructure, no civilisation and no future.
Your political intelligence is in the minus.
Mull
Mullardman
Moderately extreme...
gassor
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Mescalito
pfm Member
No, mull, it's yours that is stuck in a 1960's timewarp.
You must be pretty pissed off with the way Milliband has seen the light & started pledging to carry on with the cuts if he wins in 2015, eh?
Chris
deanf
pfm Member
You're being very selective there. If you go back in history I think you'll find it's also kept people in the poverty trap, created inequality, created unhappiness, etc. Capitalism is not all it's cut out to be, for most people.
Mescalito
pfm Member
jackbarron
Chelsea, London
There is an easy way around all of this. The government should put up the tax on people who earn over £60,000 to 50p.
Corporations should be made to pay tax. Many of them pay virtually nothing while they make huge amounts of money.
The wealthy tax evaders that the UK specializes in should pay up or be thrown into the English Channel and told to f*** off.
Then we won't have a debt problem and we will be able to fund the NHS, schools and welfare.
England is a ****hole because most people - especially the rich - don't want to pay any tax.
Jack
Corporations should be made to pay tax. Many of them pay virtually nothing while they make huge amounts of money.
The wealthy tax evaders that the UK specializes in should pay up or be thrown into the English Channel and told to f*** off.
Then we won't have a debt problem and we will be able to fund the NHS, schools and welfare.
England is a ****hole because most people - especially the rich - don't want to pay any tax.
Jack
deanf
pfm Member
Chris, standards of living increased through hard work, not the system that was largely in place while it happened. If capitalism was implemented in its entirety, most people would be a lot worse off. It's collectivism that improved standards across the board and took people out of poverty.
Jack, be careful - I believe there's something in the pfm small print about talking sense. You're dangerously close to getting a ban!
Easy, you work, pay your taxes and purchase your Krell or Iphone out of what is left. If your wants exceed your disposable income then tough. See, it does work.
paul auster
Banned
Once a country can support the life of its citizens, feed and house them an absolute definition of poverty is meaningless and thus the debate must necessarily be concerned with relative poverty .
Darth Vader
From the Dark Side
Thus no matter how wealthy we become as a nation we will always have poverty - at least in some peoples mind. We are some of the wealthiest people on the planet even those on minimum wage.
Greed really. Some always want more but work less.
Cheers,
DV