Spending review 2013

[Avonessence]

Taxation is not theft. It is part of the concensus necessary to achieve a fairer society.l

Has a fairer society been achieved in the UK?

 

[arthur]

Has it fvck!

Ill have a bit more respect for the tax system when it gathers all that it should.

By which of course I mean corporation tax and tax from those so relatively wealthy they can afford to hide their income from the man.

 

[Mescalito]

So you didn't pay part of your earnings to share in the costs of a modern industrial nation with all the benefits and advantages that brings then?

I did pay. Still do. I also happily used every legal tax avoidance method my accountant could come up with to minimise my tax bill.

IMHO, it is every taxpayer's duty to pay as little tax as they can legally get away with.

Chris

 

[Mstone]

How does paying as little tax as possible equate to being robbed by the govt?

 

[Mescalito]

How does paying as little tax as possible equate to being robbed by the govt?

They take my money against my will. That's robbery.

Chris

 

[paul auster]

Mecalito , your past couple of posts are advocating ideas , which are crass , stupid and whose logical conclusion would be that we all lived in a Hobbesian state of chaos and anarchy were your only recourse would be a shotgun .

Please pack it in

 

[Mstone]

They take my money against my will. That's robbery.

Chris

So how would the UK operate if we no one paid tax?

 

[Mescalito]

Mecalito , your past couple of posts are advocating ideas , which are crass , stupid and whose logical conclusion would be that we all lived in a Hobbesian state of chaos and anarchy were your only recourse would be a shotgun .

Please pack it in

Nah,
I just object to my money being taken to pay for lesbian woodland awareness outreach initiatives

Chris

 

[Mescalito]

So how would the UK operate if we no one paid tax?

Probably considerably more efficiently than it does now

No, some taxation is necessary. Just make it as little as is required for the absolute bare essentials.

Chris

 

[Joe P]

Chris,

They take my money against my will. That's robbery.

Have you called the fuzz?

Joe

 

[Mescalito]

Chris,


Have you called the fuzz?

Joe

Yeah,

But they are in the pocket of the robbers!

Chris

 

[Mstone]

Probably considerably more efficiently than it does now

No, some taxation is necessary. Just make it as little as is required for the absolute bare essentials.

Chris

Some is necessary then. So were you robbed or not?

 

[SteveS1]

Nah,
I just object to my money being taken to pay for lesbian woodland awareness outreach initiatives

Chris

Nah, the hallmark of any civilised society is paying for stuff you don't use and using stuff you don't pay for - democracy.

Boy George looking pleased with himself, not because he missed his own targets (under any other circumstances he would have rightly received stick) but because the so- called opposition have just signed up to doing exactly the same without a whimper. What an unelectable shower they are.

George's opposition consists of our Jack and associated rabble. Happy days.

 

[Mescalito]

Some is necessary then. So were you robbed or not?

Yes. Fix the tax rate at one percentage level across all earnings. That way the high earners still pay the most, but no longer feel robbed.

Chris

 

[arthur]

Yeah,

But they are in the pocket of the robbers!

Chris

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All your cash and plod? Whopper pockets has the man eh?

 

[Mstone]

Ah, you accept you have to pay some tax then.

But because some of your earnings are taxed at a higher rate you feel that rate should be lower?

So the govt. has robbed you of the amount you didn't want to pay?

I understand the USA has a lower overall tax rate and fewer public services. Why don't you live there?

 

[Tony L]

They take my money against my will. That's robbery.

As I interpret it you owe your wealth and success to the state, as without the opportunities provided by state education right through to university level you'd very likely just be some unemployed loser from an ex-mining town. Unlike you kids today have to pay for their education!

 

[auric]

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

I have viewed this from both ends of the argument and it works and works rather well.

 

[Mescalito]

Ah, you accept you have to pay some tax then.

But because some of your earnings are taxed at a higher rate you feel that rate should be lower?

So the govt. has robbed you of the amount you didn't want to pay?

I understand the USA has a lower overall tax rate and fewer public services. Why don't you live there?

I have done in the past. It's full of americans!

No, seriously, I am not an american & don't really understand their culture. Great, friendly & generous people, but.......

Chris

 

[Mescalito]

As I interpret it you owe your wealth and success to the state, as without the opportunities provided by state education right through to university level you'd very likely just be some unemployed loser from an ex-mining town. Unlike you kids today have to pay for their education!

Like I always say, Tony, grab whatever's going & hang on to as much of it as you legally can.

Chris