montesquieu
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Two can play the loopy protestor image game.
Art of un-sound mind was pleasantly anti vax, wasn't it?Two can play the loopy protestor image game.
What’s your beef with the democratically elected governing parties in N.Ireland and Scotland specifically? You conjoined the two. When you say you “find the whole Orange thing pretty distasteful”, I’d say the majority of people in Scotland find it highly offensive and they’re sickened by the criminality on display every time they take to the streets. What is it that links religious bigotry, aniti-semitism, far right violence and outrage at the SNP?
…and that’s something one could never accuse you of (spoken in the voice of Lady Bracknell).Blimey, he's almost lost for words!
I know I once foolishly said you’re far more entertaining when you let your junk hang out but that’s far too whiffy . Touting the notorious British racist Farage on pfm while posing as his critic in the same breath. “some might think he’s a frog faced fascist but he does make some exceedingly good points does he not?”.
Instituted in any way farage approved of or had a hand in? You must be joking.I take it in summary that you do not believe in PR, a written constitution, and the abolition of the HoL?
I don’t believe in touting the pronouncements of a grubby racist like Nigel Farage on the forum. My views on PR, written constitution and the HoL are entirely different matters.I love the way you've totally ignored the points that I made in the main lump of both that, and my previous posts - because you have no answer to them - and homed, with laser-like precision, into the juicy distraction of Farage, and your favoured bully-boy meme of hanging junk. You are amusingly predictable.
I take it in summary that you do not believe in PR, a written constitution, and the abolition of the HoL?
Again, with more feeling. Chris Pincher style.I grew up going to Catholic schools, in fear of the Orange mob. In recent years, when my wife, an acadamic, was offered a job at Queens in Belfast, I took there there to show her what life was like in Belfast beyond the little area near the university (she's a non-white, non-European and completely ignorant of the situation there). I have no truck with Orangeism or with anti-semitism - as I said, Marco banned me from AoS for calling out some of the vile anti-semitic conspiracy stuff he and some of his acolytes were spouting. (Marco, incidentally, is a committed Scottish nationalist, as well as an anti-vax nutjob). Equally, I have no time for Irish Republicanism having grown up with just how nasty and anti-democratic means-to-an-end, rabid nationalists can be - I saw it at first hand in my own community. Who could possibly cheer a bomb that killed a bunch of musicians, even in army uniform?
I see the SNP as coming from exactly same place as the Orange bigots, anti-semites and IRA thugs, though of course the SNP would claim it's different - but whatever rubbish they talk about 'civic nationalism', at the end of the day their whole raison d'etre is anti-English bigotry. I have lived away from Scotland since 1991, except for two years when I moved back (2002-2004). When I moved back, I had two kids, up till then raised in Somerset, with English accents. Their experience at (Catholic) primary schools and by the kids in the (fairly posh) neighbourhood was appalling - bullied relentlessly for their accents. At this point I had been like many other Scots - broadly sympathetic to all the 'wha's like us?' bollocks (and it is bollocks). I was anti-SNP as I had found them little more than an irritant in achieving political goals, back in my Labour Party days. But this time I was confronted with the reality of all that anti-English, anti-'Westmister' (code for anti-English) rhetoric. Since then things have only got worse, while the SNP have got into bed with Sinn Fein in many more ways than previously. I moved south in disgust after two years. England is far, far less racist than Scotland. My wife would be the first to tell you that based on her direct experience, however nice my family have been to her.
The SNP are a poison on the Scottish body politic, promulgating a victim narrative that is utterly ahistorical and in many cases downright laughable. The SNP's assertion of 'alternative facts' meanwhile is delusional and often quite sick - there is no serious economist anywhere that believes secession would be anything less than a disaster for Scotland, at least in the short to medium term. Long term, yes maybe, but not without a period of austerity never before seen in any advanced country.
I happened to vote Brexit, which at the time was an on-balance thing as I thought the EU anti-democratic, and the UK's position within it to be unsustainable in a world of ever-closer union and Eurozone-dominated discourse. I still believe this was correct but I was aware of and still acknowledge the down-sides, especially in the short-term. I don't think we'll really know if it was successful until maybe 20 years have passed. There are many potential up-sides but this useless Tory government has not reached out to grasp any of them. This is a problem of a useless government, rather than of Brexit itself.
But one major reason I voted for it is that I believed it would shoot the nationalist fox - frankly, Brexit makes Scottish seccession the equivalent of taking a shotgun to your head. The more rabid SNP members might well be willing to do this but I doubt very much if a majority of Scots would ever be willing to do the same.
Again, with more feeling. Chris Pincher style.
Instituted in any way farage approved of or had a hand in? You must be joking.
That Mr Hitler, say what you like about him, but he had some good ideas, didn't he?
I don’t believe in touting the pronouncements of a grubby racist like Nigel Farage on the forum. My views on PR, written constitution and the HoL are entirely different matters.