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Scottish Politics II

Meanwhile the Telegraph backs Boris’s dwarf in Scotland, Daily Express-style for an audience outside Scotland. He’s ‘furiously lashing out’ and no doubt were he the chair he’d be ‘slapping down’,


“Douglas Ross has furious row with SNP MP over 'inept' chairing of Commons committee”
The Scottish Tory leader lashed out at Pete Wishart during the Scottish affairs select committee after he focused on independence”.

What are the odds the spoiled ballot paper in the election of the Scottish Parliament Presiding Officer was Ross’s?
 
Ross isnt operating exclusively from the comfort of the government benches in Westminster now, where he can rely on the blue rinsed howler monkeys to shout him on. The Scottish Parliament is a different matter- he only has 24% of seats, the majority of which where no Tory even stood for election to a constituency. Hes not just facing the SNP but the Greens, Labour and the LibDems who will isolate his small group on anything resembling Tory policy.

His tactics thus far have been to attempt to make noise on independence or roll over and imitate the SNP’s 4% pay offer to the NHS while his boss in London sticks embarrassingly to 1%.

We now get to see what he’s made of...
 
Konteebos said:
Blue jelly, I suspect...
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or possibly more like this...disappears slowly with every flush....cleans and foams at the mouth

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"A mandate for a referendum is not there given the numbers that voted against the nationalists last week."

Is this the way that we usually determine whether the winning party in an election has, or has not, a mandate to action their manifesto? By adding up the individual votes, countrywide, for every other party than the winning one?

The SNP gained more seats that the 2nd, 3rd and 4th placed parties combined. Pro independence parties now have 72 seats V 57 for anti-independence parties.

The "pro" side stood on a manifesto of a having referendum. They won.

The "anti" side stood on a platform of stopping a referendum. They lost.

To me, this looks like a win for the pro independence side. Am I missing something?
 
wulbert said:
"A mandate for a referendum is not there given the numbers that voted against the nationalists last week."

Is this the way that we usually determine whether the winning party in an election has, or has not, a mandate to action their manifesto? By adding up the individual votes, countrywide, for every other party than the winning one?

The SNP gained more seats that the 2nd, 3rd and 4th placed parties combined. Pro independence parties now have 72 seats V 57 for anti-independence parties.

The "pro" side stood on a manifesto of a having referendum. They won.

The "anti" side stood on a platform of stopping a referendum. They lost.

To me, this looks like a win for the pro independence side. Am I missing something?
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The only thing you’re missing is the desperation of the Unionist minority to attempt to delegitimise the election result. Watching the BBC Scotlandshire coverage would have led anyone watching from outside Scotland to believe that the SNP had failed to get a mandate, that Labour holding two constituency seats out of 73 and the Tories holding onto five while the SNP won 64 of them was evidence the tide was turning! It was a rejection of the unionist parties by the electorate- the three couldnt even cobble enough seats between them to stop a historic fourth election win for the SNP.
 
TheDecameron said:
The only thing you’re missing is the desperation of the Unionist minority to attempt to delegitimise the election result. Watching the BBC Scotlandshire coverage would have led anyone watching from outside Scotland to believe that the SNP had failed to get a mandate, that Labour holding two constituency seats out of 73 and the Tories holding onto five while the SNP won 64 of them was evidence the tide was turning! It was a rejection of the unionist parties by the electorate- the three couldnt even cobble enough seats between them to stop a historic fourth election win for the SNP.
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Yeah, it's a funny old place Scotland right enough;

A place where winning 64 of 73 seats is a "failure".
A place where having 25% of Europe's offshore wind resources with 1% of Europe's population is unsustainable.
A place where owning massive oil & gas reserves is a curse.
A place where welcoming refugees, encouraging immigration and extending the voting franchise to foreign nationals makes you an "ethno-nationalist".
A place where wanting to remain in a union of 27 nations marks you out as a "separatist".
A place where seeking autonomy makes you a "dependancy junkie".
 
wulbert said:
Yeah, it's a funny old place Scotland right enough;

A place where winning 64 of 73 seats is a "failure".
A place where having 25% of Europe's offshore wind resources with 1% of Europe's population is unsustainable.
A place where owning massive oil & gas reserves is a curse.
A place where welcoming refugees, encouraging immigration and extending the voting franchise to foreign nationals makes you an "ethno-nationalist".
A place where wanting to remain in a union of 27 nations marks you out as a "separatist".
A place where seeking autonomy makes you a "dependancy junkie".
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You missed the bit where Scotland is a place where perhaps just over half of the electorate want independence but not while they need help and money from the horrible English to help save their lives from covid.
 
Brian said:
You missed the bit where Scotland is a place where perhaps just over half of the electorate want independence but not while they need help and money from the horrible English to help save their lives from covid.
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I believe it’s because people are worried it will turn into a mini brexit shit show. If the EU came out and stated we’d be taken back into the EU in some form or other that allowed free trade to return you’d see a different picture, as it stands there are too many uncertainties. Whether being forced to go to the Euro would scupper that who knows, by the time we split it might be the $cotCoin crypto we go with.
 
Brian said:
You missed the bit where Scotland is a place where perhaps just over half of the electorate want independence but not while they need help and money from the horrible English to help save their lives from covid.
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You missed the bit where Scottish taxpayers funded the vaccine along with English taxpayers.
 
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