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Replacing Epos ES14s

I’ve just bought 6ks worth of speaker so hope to compare. We will see. It really wouldn’t surprise me if I end up back with 14s, I really am a cheap date!
 
MVV said:
I've tried Naim Credos, Linn Isobarics, Neat Vitos (once the neat flagship) Quad 57s and refurbed Ditton 66s. But I always end up back with ES14s, must have bought them 4 times!
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There's your answer. I've done the same with LS3/5As. Nothing worked for me so I'm back with them and don't plan on wasting any more time!
 
sktn77a said:
There's your answer. I've done the same with LS3/5As. Nothing worked for me so I'm back with them and don't plan on wasting any more time!
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Well, if this latest purchase doesn’t do it that will certainly be that!
 
krenzler said:
I know this has been linked in other (of the countless) ES14 threads but still a good read.

www.stereonet.com

An interview with Robin Marshall, ex-Epos designer

Interview made last year by the student audio club at the university in Hong Kong. I nicked this from the Pink Fish forum. Q - You are probably best known as the founder of Epos and for the products you designed under the Epos badge. Is that right? Epos engaged a rather short period in my life. I...
www.stereonet.com www.stereonet.com
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Going OT here. This interview is new to me, & I enjoyed it. Thanks!

Speakers have the most diverse design approaches & sonic characteristics of all hi-fi components & I love seeing into the minds of their designers. Marshalls views on crossovers are fascinating. Mostly I agree with his preference for 1st order but I also appreciate the advantages of the insanely complex crossover of the LS3/5a. While openness & dynamics aren't its strengths, it has the best phase coherence of any box speaker I’ve heard.

I liked his final words: “With each successive year I learn a little more and then find that I know even less than I previously thought. On the day that I die I shall probably need to confess that this amazing reverse spiral has resulted in my not knowing anything at all.”
 
If I parted with my 14's I'd probably go for some active ATC's (19's or 40's). I think you'd be hard pressed to beat 14's for 1K though.
 
Salamander said:
It took a pair of Shahinian Obelisk's to replace my Epos ES14's, wish I'd never traded them in though.
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Did you try the ARCs?

Having heard the DIAP, HAWKS and having had the OBLSK at home for a while, I’ve always felt that the ARCs were a bit of a sweet-spot with Dick’s creations.

They do need quite a bit of power to sound their best, IMHO…

Maybe the OP would enjoy the ARCs?
 
I have considered the ARCs but, having recently become a bit of a convert to Audio Note SET amps, don't think they would work.
 
SONDEKNZ said:
Did you try the ARCs?

Having heard the DIAP, HAWKS and having had the OBLSK at home for a while, I’ve always felt that the ARCs were a bit of a sweet-spot with Dick’s creations.

They do need quite a bit of power to sound their best, IMHO…

Maybe the OP would enjoy the ARCs?
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Don't think I heard the ARCS's at the time. We went to demo equipment stands and the speakers used were Obs, later went back to hear the Obs again and bought them. Big mistake was hearing the Hawks, although they were beyond my budget.
 
We used to pump a clean 100W into the ARCs. They really came to life!

But agree they sound good anyway - in their own unique way.
 
MVV said:
I'd like to get a replacement for these speakers. They are an old design but whatever it is they do I always end up back with them.
I've tried Naim Credos, Linn Isobarics, Neat Vitos (once the neat flagship) Quad 57s and refurbed Ditton 66s. But I always end up back with ES14s, must have bought them 4 times! This is probably the best sounding set, single wired with the upgraded capacitor which sorted the irritating treble. I always use them with glued in bungs.
I'm not sure what it is that brings me back, I guess it is the midrange but I don't know. Part of it is they are standmounts so the cabinet doesn't sing along or perhaps I just prefer how they look.
I have finished with amps and turntables so perhaps a Technics G will replace the Amadeus GTa, perhaps not. The Audio Note pre-power is definitely staying and off back for a service.
So what should I consider? Thinking about £1000 used.
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Interestingly I had a pair of EPOS ES11s back in the early nineties whilst in the trade and I’d listen to Bariks SBLs DBLs and they just could not do what the ES11s did in the midrange Saras where fun to listen to especially Rega however it was the Shahinain ARC that I fell in love with and had a pair in 93 that I lived with until 2005 down graded to a pair of MS11s the floor standing version a few years ago back to Shahinain ARCS late 90s then a pair of 2004 then obelisks of the same age and now onto the Obs 2 which has been a great journey and have loved all the shahinains. I get what you mean the EPOS are extremly good for a forward firing loud speaker
 
Having said that and living with the ES11s I never warmed to the ES14s and preferred the Saras to them despite their faults. Nowadays really do think speaker choice comes down to compromise. I was wax lyrical with the Obelisks only to now have the Obs2 and be blown away by them. Anyway good hunting or just remain happy with the ES14s
 
Julian Slinn said:
Having said that and living with the ES11s I never warmed to the ES14s and preferred the Saras to them despite their faults. Nowadays really do think speaker choice comes down to compromise. I was wax lyrical with the Obelisks only to now have the Obs2 and be blown away by them. Anyway good hunting or just remain happy with the ES14s
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Well, I think I’ve done it. At quite a cost and I got them used. Trenner&Friedl Arts on dedicated wooden stands that look like metal. Even used I never thought I’d ever spend that kind of money! Still, they tell me that you don‘t live forever but I don’t believe that.
 
MVV said:
Well, I think I’ve done it. At quite a cost and I got them used. Trenner&Friedl Arts on dedicated wooden stands that look like metal. Even used I never thought I’d ever spend that kind of money! Still, they tell me that you don‘t live forever but I don’t believe that.
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Ever thought about the Shahinian Super Elf? Rare as F mind
 
Julian Slinn said:
Interestingly I had a pair of EPOS ES11s back in the early nineties whilst in the trade and I’d listen to Bariks SBLs DBLs and they just could not do what the ES11s did in the midrange
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ES11 were a bit boomy in my old room, but were stunning near-field, connected to a Naim Nait 1.
In the right room, I think they could be a real bargain.
 
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