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Quiet Record Cleaning Machine

Discussion in 'audio' started by Polycotton, Sep 23, 2022 at 12:54 PM.

  1. Polycotton

    Polycotton Member

    Hi.
    I have a Moth record cleaning machine which I hardly ever use due to the noise and the heat it generates in my small, 3M*2M, office where it and my lp collection are stored.
    So I was wondering if anyone has used one of the following and how you get on with it and its noise and heat levels.

    Knosti Disco Antistat Ultrasonic Record Cleaning Machine
    Clearaudio Smart Matrix Silent
    HumminGuru Ultrasonic Vinyl Record Cleaning Machine

    Thank you
     
  2. david ellwood

    david ellwood Kirabosi Kognoscente

    The Humminguru isnt silent but its not excessively noisy. I have mine in the laundry room and it makes less noise than the drier.

    Once started its automatic, so you can just leave it to get on with the job, and the results are excellent.
     
  3. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    ??????????????????????????

    The vacuum/drying run, running for a few minutes at a time???????????????

    Unless someone is buying LOTS of old/ second-hand records?

    I have never cleaned a new record and never will, and will never believe that it is other than a complete and utter, total waste of time. (I buy 5-10 new records per month....)
     
  4. david ellwood

    david ellwood Kirabosi Kognoscente

    I clean brand new records and the results are very worthwhile.
     
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  5. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    Sorry - here -there is no benefit.

    Based on knowledge of the pressing process, there could never be any.

    How many new records have you listened to, critically, before and after "cleaning"?
     
  6. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    I assume you don’t actually buy any new records! Sadly many arrive in paper or card inners, some even have fingermarks from whoever placed them in the sleeve, very often a layer of dirt is visible deep in the groove (mostly from the sleeve attracted by static). I clean absolutely everything I buy before the first play so I get this crap out before the stylus has any opportunity to weld it in place.

    Record pressing plants are not anything like the surgically clean environment one would expect. They are surprisingly filthy places like so many large factories. Have a look for videos on YouTube, it is quite an eye-opener how unclean even the areas used for plating, mounting stampers etc are.

    PS FWIW I’ve also A B’d clean looking records many times, including to others. Even good looking ones sound better after a proper wet vacuum clean.
     
  7. Joolzdee

    Joolzdee pfm Member

    Would with all due respect disagree.
    Recently bought a brand new pressing of Rumours 45rpm.
    There was a surprising and fairly loud click during the intro to The Chain and several other clicks throughout the rest of the disc. Slightly annoyed, I was all ready to pack it up for return when I decided to have a gander through my 30x cheapo ebay illuminated loupe. Immediately I spotted a fairly large piece of debris stuck in the groove. Nothing ventured etc I was able to pluck it out with a toothpick. What amazed me though was the amount of smaller pieces of detritus buried in the groove. This despite it being a premium pressing packaged in poly sleeves. A quick spin through the Project vac with The Right One fluid and upon examination the discs were spotless and playing silently. In future everything, both new and used gets a clean and a fresh Nagaoka sleeve.
    As always ymmv
     
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  8. Polycotton

    Polycotton Member

    Thank you.
     
  9. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    I very seldom buy anything else.

    Never noticed but if they affect anything, I would doubt it and if they did it would last - 1-2-3 plays.

    I have spent quite a few years working in genuinely "clean" (physical and chemical, as in cleanroom) plastic manufacture and LP pressing isn't even remotely close.

    If anything in the environment of a record press caused a problem with the pressing, I would bet my LIFE that cleaning the final record could NOT resurrect it.
     
  10. Big Tabs

    Big Tabs looking backwards, going forwards

    A wet-clean is a must with new records, just to get rid of the static - if nothing else.

    but there is always someone swimming against the tide.
     
  11. Avon

    Avon pfm Member

    I use a HumminGuru and I'd describe the initial cleaning process as just about acceptable as background noise. The water warms up a bit but not so you'd notice if you weren't looking.
    The drying fan is too noisy though when listening to music in my opinion, like a quiet hair drier. Going off topic, I don't use the drier, but use a Vinyl Vac instead, as I believe it's more effective at getting the gunk out of the grooves. Far less convenient obviously.
     
  12. daytona600

    daytona600 Registered User

    Decades used a Loricraft PRC almost silent & 2nd clean on a Degritter
    Only buy new records & these should be cleaned before playing
     
  13. uncl_nigel

    uncl_nigel pfm Member

    I used to have a Moth
    I now have a Clearaudio

    The Moth would clear the flat of everyone but me, the Clearaudio does not make anywhere near as much noise even if i would not venture to call it silent. The Moth definitely required ear protection for more than one or two records per session.
     
  14. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    I clean mine in the sink using a tap. It's almost silent and very inexpensive. In fact, on the basis that I need it to keep the house running, I could regard it as free.
     
  15. Warszawa

    Warszawa pfm Member

    I bought a Clearaudio Smart Matrix Pro a few years ago for £700 and it’s a fantastic bit of kit. Not excessively loud so I imagine the Silent is very good. Not cheap though.
     
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