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So porn goes against all moral codes and is destroying Britains youth.

Could it be more the case that porn doesn't generate tax revenue and so is an easy moral standpoint for Cameron.

Personally I'd rather see the minimum booze pricing and cigarette packaging addressed first.

Guess there isn't a porn lobbyist to tell Cameron what he should say or do.
 
In this instance I do think that the internet needs to be controlled to some degree. This is fairly new territory and we are still feeling our way, and we can't have pornographers hijacking the internet to bombard every search with porn. I don't want a world like that. If the default setting was a porn filter, I'd be happy with that.
 
I'm intrigued to know what these supposedly depraved things are which people are supposedly typing into Google. Apparently you type them in and are then transported into the 'dark web' which, according to a not in any way sensationalist news report I heard yesterday, apparently means using email.
 
Rasher said:
In this instance I do think that the internet needs to be controlled to some degree. This is fairly new territory and we are still feeling our way, and we can't have pornographers hijacking the internet to bombard every search with porn. I don't want a world like that. If the default setting was a porn filter, I'd be happy with that.
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I'd suggest reviewing your search terms if you're finding this an issue.
 
I would be concerned if someone tried to google Tupperware and ended up with "two girls one cup"

My point is more that something like cigerette branding and alcohol pricing that has the majority in agreement and the backing of charities and experts is being pushed under the carpet.

Does Cameron think that declaring this now we will forgot the bribes and coercion he submitted to in giving way to lobbyists.
 
I fully support this move.

I dont want my kids stumbling on porn on the internet by accident.
 
I'm 100% against it - it is entirely a parents responsibility to control their child's environment and experience, it sure as hell isn't mine. This will be the thin-end of the censorship wedge, and don't be in the least bit surprised when all forums (with the exception of ConservativeHome, obviously) find themselves behind this opt-in censor-wall due to risk of bad language etc. Ideological authoritarians like David Cameron etc should never be allowed anywhere near civil liberties as, rest assured, they'll take far, far more than they initially claim. This is one huge great step towards Iran, China etc where the state dictates an individual's information access.

PS I will unquestionably be opting out of any state censorship filter and I sincerely hope the vast majority of people do likewise as a matter of principle / as a stand for intellectual freedom.
 
In any sensible country, furthering internet censorship is the last thing the government would be doing after PRISM was exposed a matter of weeks ago.
 
My problems with this are two-fold.

First, it feels like yet another band wagon for Cameron to jump on.

Second, and more importantly, it could set a worrying precedent, IMHO. Like the anti-terrorist legislation of the last decade or so, I'm concerned that it will be worded in a such loose fashion that it could be used to censor anything felt to be subversive or "not in the public interest".......

I just don't trust any government these days with any new powers of censorship.

I would much rather see the ISPs band together and make adult content "opt-in".

There is also a practical problem of how to determine what constitutes "adult content": as in the AOL fiasco that saw the White House web site block because of the word "couples" being used!

Chris
 
In the wake of The Open, a google for 'couples swing' might bring forth some unfortunate results.... when everyone knows I merely want to research Fred's golf technique.
 
Sorry guys if you think parents can 100% control internet access to that degree you are living in cloud cookoo land.

Talking to children will not help as the problem is more accidental access not planned access.

And yes it is ALL our responsibilities to control this. We create the environment that we live in and the internet is part of that.
 
spxy said:
I fully support this move.

I dont want my kids stumbling on porn on the internet by accident.
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What about starting with TV and these phone sex programmes which start as early as 10 pm with naked (or nearly naked) models beckoning you to call them, what kind of message is this sending to kids?, or endless gambling channels waiting to fleece you.
 
spxy said:
Sorry guys if you think parents can 100% control internet access to that degree you are living in cloud cookoo land.

Talking to children will not help as the problem is more accidental access not planned access.

And yes it is ALL our responsibilities to control this. We create the environment that we live in and the internet is part of that.
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Go and buy content control software or a firewall. Agree 100% that it is the parents responsibility. I have an Astaro firewall at home that can block all this type stuff and is completely free.

If you can't look after your kids don't have them, get very annoyed when people expect the state or others to do their job for them.

Would you be annoyed if you found that your kids are looking at porn on school computers? It is the headmasters responsibility to protect them at school and your job at home.

Don't ask me to lose my freedom to do your job for you.
 
thebiglebowski said:
Would you be annoyed if you found that your kids are looking at porn on school computers? It is the headmasters responsibility to protect them at school and your job at home.
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That's a good analogy. People in gubberment have shown time and time again that they can't be trusted with the keys to this sort of thing. They'll use any excuse to turn the screw a little tighter.
 
Sadly this will be a complete non starter. I'd say 99% of the kids I work with can run rings around their parents, guardians, significant adults and school security! It'll be a walk in the park for them to access whatever they want on the net.

As has been stated earlier....talk to your kids and don't expect others to do your job of preparing them for what they'll find on the interweb.
 
I'd say you are 99% wrong, firewalls are designed to block this type of thing and kids are not expert hackers.

This isn't 1983 and war games anymore, just because a six year old knows how to play angry birds doesn't mean they can out fox their parents.

Using this excuse is lazy and once again expecting others to do a parents job.
 
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