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Labour at it again... anti-Semitism... #II

Where Labour effed up was blatantly contradicting Scottish Labour policy behind the back of the Scottish leader. R Leonard has been a faithful acolyte of Corbyn and now he has been thrown under the bus. So much for the kinder politics we were promised. "Richard Leonard has been very clear and very strong on the constitutional question. A new referendum is “not needed and not wanted”. Party conference has passed policy. Yet it would appear McDonnell only discussed this with the leader of the Scottish party after he had made his views public. The Scotsman" So much for internal democracy in the Labour party.

Genuine question as I am no where near informed about Scottish politics as you are, but if you could tell if you are/were you a supporter of Leonard and why, it would give me a bit of context.
 
I had some champagne last night, but am I a socialist?
No, no no. It takes more than just champagne....you're safe for now.

It'll take lots and lots of beer and sandwiches to turn you into a real socialist.

Sandwiches aren't that necessary.
 
Genuine question as I am no where near informed about Scottish politics as you are, but if you could tell if you are/were you a supporter of Leonard and why, it would give me a bit of context.

I see where you want to take the discussion, but the answer is I voted for Leonard when I was a member of the party, however he has not impressed me. I have serious misgivings about the SNP's economics and don't want to give them any more ammunition to marginalise Labour. The statement from McDonnell is ill-conceived, high handed and anti-democratic and has driven a wedge between Scottish Labour and the rest of the party.
 
I see where you want to take the discussion, but the answer is I voted for Leonard when I was a member of the party, however he has not impressed me. I have serious misgivings about the SNP's economics and don't want to give them any more ammunition to marginalise Labour. The statement from McDonnell is ill-conceived, high handed and anti-democratic and has driven a wedge between Scottish Labour and the rest of the party.
Many thanks. It was a genuine question. I know your feelings about all things Corbyn, and I believe you to be 'of the left'. We have argued and agreed before, just exploring the ground between us, that's all. Not quite sure what you mean about where I want to take the discussion, all I can say is that I do not have a destination in mind
 
istm tying yourself in knots about something that you claim doesn't exist is a bit odd.
Possibly even you don't believe your drivel.
AS obviously exists but is exaggerated. istm you appear not to understand the purpose of a smear campaign.

Ignorant/complacent/blithe support is a major factor as to what has got Labour in to its' current mess.
Is it? Evidence?

Yet you appear to believe everyone and everything, except Labour and your wokementum associates, is responsible for LP's ongoing failures.
No, I don’t.

Incorrect.

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https://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2017
Out of date, so more drivel.
 
Many thanks. It was a genuine question. I know your feelings about all things Corbyn, and I believe you to be 'of the left'. We have argued and agreed before, just exploring the ground between us, that's all. Not quite sure what you mean about where I want to take the discussion, all I can say is that I do not have a destination in mind

I thought you were going for the old "you are not a fan of Leonard and are using any excuse to bash Corbyn" routine. Apologies. PS I see myself in the most maligned political group imaginable - the centre (well on economic policy, but towards the left on social policy). Incidentally, that's where I see the SNP, but I can't connect with their economic take on a newly independent country - too many unanswered questions.
 
Scottish Labour has accused the BBC of bias over its investigation into anti-semitism, leading to claims that Richard Leonard has simply copied the UK party’s attack lines on the broadcaster.
Leonard’s party, which until now has said nothing about a documentary into how racism claims were dealt with in London, has also refused to back the whistleblowers who came forward to complain about Labour.
Ephraim Borowski, director of the Scottish Council of Jewish Communities, said: "We are again disappointed, but no longer surprised, to see Jewish community concerns being dismissed."

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news...-investigation-blasting-quot-biased-quot-bbc/
 
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“The [Israel] Embassy helps us quite a lot. When bad news stories come out about Israel, the embassy sends us information so we can counter it… it’s really helpful. We work very closely together. But a lot of it is behind the scenes.” Michael Rubin, Labour Friends of Israel

Matt Kennard on Twitter
 
This is what embassies do. It is their job. If there are horror stories about Brexit going around, for instance, the UK embassy in Rome may invite half a dozen journalists to lunch to give them further and more accurate information. Any embassy is in place to further the views of the government it represents.
 
“The [Israel] Embassy helps us quite a lot. When bad news stories come out about Israel, the embassy sends us information so we can counter it… it’s really helpful. We work very closely together. But a lot of it is behind the scenes.” Michael Rubin, Labour Friends of Israel

Matt Kennard on Twitter

So what? Why wouldn’t the Israeli embassy act in the interests of Israel? It’s what they do. I dare say our embassy in Tel Aviv looks after what it believes to be British interests.
 
So what? Why wouldn’t the Israeli embassy act in the interests of Israel? It’s what they do. I dare say our embassy in Tel Aviv looks after what it believes to be British interests.
The what is this. Peter Willsman was accused of anti semitism precisely for suggesting links between certain groups inside Labour and the Israeli embassy.
 


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